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Adapting the Tale of Gondolin to Film

vexx801
Rivendell


Aug 8 2013, 2:26pm

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Adapting the Tale of Gondolin to Film Can't Post

Due to the recent rumor of a Gondolin scene in TH: DOS (likely just a rumor due to rights, though they could certainly make further mention of it) as well as the announcement of the new fan film Storm Over Gondolin (which I am super stoked about!), I thought I would start a discussion about adapting the Gondolin story.

How would it translate as a film - even this upcoming fan film? Do the visuals used in Jackson's films work for the First Age of Middle Earth story? Which elements of the story would work well on screen or what would need to be tweaked? Thoughts, folks? How would an adaptation of the Gondolin tale work?

Note also that I am including any and all material related to Gondolin from the legendarium - references from The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, HoME, Unfinished Tales and The Silmarillion.


(This post was edited by vexx801 on Aug 8 2013, 2:28pm)


Escapist
Gondor


Aug 8 2013, 2:46pm

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I could see two structures being possible. [In reply to] Can't Post

The first is to have a prologue PJ-style that gets the audience up to speed about Gondolin's relevance in the history up to that point and its position in the world at that time.

The second would be to have a kind of frame involving some things that survived its fall such as certain personalities, swords, poems, and foes. I think that the story of Gondolin would fit a frame structure better than any of the other stories - but if it can't be done in a meaningful way that makes the frame into a significant part of the story that gets told then it isn't worth the extra complexity.

I really like the idea of attempting individual stories out of the whole Silmarilion / ME history. A great deal of detail would need to be added for the adaptation of any one of the stories and this would lead to an explosion of screen time compared to page space.


malickfan
Gondor


Aug 8 2013, 4:23pm

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I would leave it alone. [In reply to] Can't Post

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Sorry to put a dampener on things in this thread's third post, but I don't really want to see any of the First Age stuff adapted (for the time being anyway) as it simply isn't complete enough to feel like an adaptation non rewritten fan fiction, there is such an overload of video games and films based on Tolkien at the mo, I wouldn't want anything like this to sideline the text-which at best is a difficult to read fragment likely at odds with Tolkien's final intentions.

Ignoring my views I do feel that animation (prefferebly hand drawn) would be the best fit for the Silmarillion stories-the tone and scale is too expensive for love action, and I wouldn't want it to be in the same style as Peter Jackson (jusy because he came first dosen't mean he should be the end all of all visual approaches to the material). In anycase if it were made I wouldn't watch it, as it wold only depress me, reminiding me how commercialised the materil has become, and the missed oppurtunity Tolkien had with 'Of Tuor and his coming to Godolin' probably my fave of all his unfinished tales.

The only adapation I would be really open to is one edited by Christopher Tolkien, Adam Tolkien or W.Hammond and C.Scull from Tolkien's notes and/or a newly discovered lengthy draft found buried in his Garden-you never know...

But in all honesty I want them to leave the books alone for a while.

The Talking Purse is Awesome, deal with it.

But he isn't quite as aweome as Cirdan.

 
 

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