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The SLIGHTLY Extended Edition
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hutch
Rohan


Aug 6 2013, 3:28pm

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Movies were still in theaters longer 10 years ago [In reply to] Can't Post

and piracy wasn't as easy.

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hutch
Rohan


Aug 6 2013, 3:31pm

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which is funny [In reply to] Can't Post

cuz there was plenty of Viggo in the docs. ha ha ha.

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hutch
Rohan


Aug 6 2013, 3:33pm

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exactly [In reply to] Can't Post

diff commentaries have diff purposes. People have different interests and reasons for tuning in. I know people that can't stand LOTR but tuned in to hear about technical accomplishments.

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dernwyn
Forum Admin / Moderator


Aug 6 2013, 4:08pm

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Subsequent subthread removed [In reply to] Can't Post

*sigh* Please refrain from getting personal, folks! Unsure


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Shagrat
Gondor

Aug 6 2013, 4:13pm

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Update from TheDigitalBits [In reply to] Can't Post


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Finally today (following up on our post from last Thursday), Iíve heard back unofficially from my sources regarding the running time of Warnerís The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey Ė Extended Edition release. Essentially what Iíve been told is that director Peter Jacksonís estimate (given in select interviews a few months back, that 20-25 minutes of footage would likely be added back into the film for the Extended Cut) was essentially just a guess at the time, as he hadnít yet even started to cut the longer version. So thereís nothing sinister going on with the fact that the Extended Cut turned out to only be 13 minutes longer Ė the cut is exactly the way he wanted it and itís just the way it worked out in the editing room. The production team is seriously under the gun at the moment working to finish Desolation of Smaug for its December release, so Jackson may comment officially on this or not. In any case, recognizing that this information probably isnít going to satisfy some fans, thatís the deal



tripecac
Rivendell

Aug 6 2013, 4:22pm

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Thanks! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for creating that word cloud! Before I saw it, my guess was that "minutes" would be a top word, and it looks like it was certainly up there.

I think we all deep down agree that the quality of the extra footage is more important than the quantity, but until we've seen it, we can't judge the quality, so all we can judge is the quantity. The same goes for the commentary track(s).


tripecac
Rivendell

Aug 6 2013, 4:40pm

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Top 10 [In reply to] Can't Post

Here's another quantitative figure for you:

This topic is now in the Hobbit forum's top 10 in terms of most posts.

Does that make it a "good" topic? Or merely a "long" topic?


tripecac
Rivendell

Aug 6 2013, 5:09pm

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Quantity vs quality [In reply to] Can't Post

Personally, I prefer long albums to short albums, long books to short books... and the same goes for movies, games, hikes, bike rides, etc.

For me, the scale or "epic-ness" of an activity (including entertainment) definitely contributes to my overall perception of quality. I like to be immersed in the activity, and can endure long stretches of tedium as long as an occasional tidbit of enjoyment comes along.

Perhaps it's "attention deficit surplus disorder" or something like that, but for me, quantity is definitely a component of quality. Maybe this is a feeling most collectors share. We like large amounts of stuff, and like to immerse ourselves in our hoardings. Like Smaug!

So as a collector, I get much more excited about collecting 23 extra minutes than 13 extra minutes. And I think the marketers know that, and that's why they are strongly pitching "9 hours!" of extra features.


Rembrethil
Tol Eressea

Aug 6 2013, 5:13pm

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Thoughts [In reply to] Can't Post

I generally agree. I am sometimes disappointed by short stories,(I want them to go on with the great story), but sometimes they are cut at just the right point of believability. Any longer, they'd be rubbish, and I just have to remind myself of that.

I should be glad that we get anything extra, but I will reserve judgement until I see it.


Elessar
Valinor


Aug 7 2013, 1:12am

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Music [In reply to] Can't Post

I thought they might include even more of the CD but its got a pretty fair amount in it now.



Elessar
Valinor


Aug 7 2013, 1:24am

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To be fair [In reply to] Can't Post

We've had several posts about it recently that mentioned the 13 mins.



tripecac
Rivendell

Aug 7 2013, 3:17am

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"Extended" [In reply to] Can't Post

I just think it's interesting that in TORN's description of the "extended" version, they don't actually mention the extended footage!

Perhaps if the amount of extended footage were more significant, it wouldn't have gotten forgotten (or deliberately omitted). :)


Elessar
Valinor


Aug 7 2013, 3:25am

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We've talked about it before. [In reply to] Can't Post

If not in one of these recent posts one of them in the most recent past. Well, mentioned what we know at least right now is included.

Edit: As a matter of fact a post on the FP Mrcere that mentions the 13 mins in the first paragraph. I don't think we need to mention it every time we post about it. Especially if we post about it 4-5 times on the FP in a short amount of time.



tripecac
Rivendell

Aug 7 2013, 3:37am

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FP? [In reply to] Can't Post

What does "FP" mean?

First Post? Free Press? Forum P-something?


Elessar
Valinor


Aug 7 2013, 3:57am

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Front Page [In reply to] Can't Post

It means Front Page. Sorry, I just figure people know what that means without thinking I should use the whole thing. lol



Buchanicus
Lorien


Aug 7 2013, 4:03am

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Interesting [In reply to] Can't Post

That seems to show what the main source of this discussion is. or at least why the two sides are getting a little frustrated with each other.

I think that there is a huge difference in being disappointed that the Hobbit EE is not exactly like the LotR EEs, including the same features and what not, and that this particular release is terrible or sucks or not worth it. Whereas some are combining the two (not all). Just to me, those are two different things.

This set still contains a huge amount of material for one film. Compared to other bluray sets, this could be considered a lot of content for a whole trilogy of films.

At the end of the day this set contains 13 new minutes, a director's commentary, and 5+ hours of documentaries. I can't even think of anything that comes close to that, including the 6 film Marvel phase One set and the Star Wars 6 movie set. If you were to consider the LotR EEs the greatest home video release ever (and I personally do), then based on what is listed then the Hobbit would fall to number 2 on that list. It's still providing more than 99% of all DVD/Blu ray releases. Is it disappointing that its not a mirror image of the LotR sets? Yes, sure it is. But this is still quite an impressive release.

TORn member formally known as ryan1976.

(This post was edited by Buchanicus on Aug 7 2013, 4:13am)


tripecac
Rivendell

Aug 7 2013, 4:21am

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Makes sense [In reply to] Can't Post

I see what you mean...

Funny, I just got the Star Wars set today. Another set I have my eye on is Bond 50. Unfortunately, the pricing for that is a bit wacky at the moment.


Buchanicus
Lorien


Aug 7 2013, 5:03am

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To be fair... [In reply to] Can't Post

That Star Wars set may have more total special features, but a lot is archival previously released stuff.... but you get my point Wink

And I really want that Bond 50 set too, but the price makes it hard for me to pull the trigger. I keep hoping it'll be one of Amazon's insane deals of the day. I got the Alien Anthology Blu Ray box set last summer for under $20 last summer as one of the DotD.

TORn member formally known as ryan1976.

(This post was edited by Buchanicus on Aug 7 2013, 5:03am)


tripecac
Rivendell

Aug 7 2013, 6:40am

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Bond [In reply to] Can't Post

The US version of Bond 50 blu-ray is now down to $109.99 -- better grab it quick before it shoots back up again!

http://www.amazon.com/...u-ray/dp/B006U1J5ZY/


tripecac
Rivendell

Aug 8 2013, 11:47pm

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Bond 50 Region info? [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd love to snatch the Bond 50 set for $109.99 (from Amazon US), but I'm worried that the discs won't work on my New Zealand (region 2) blu-ray player.

Has anyone confirmed whether or not the Amazon US Bond 50 blu-rays are region A only, or region free? (I know the UK ones are supposed to be Region Free except for Quantum of Solace).


tripecac
Rivendell

Aug 10 2013, 2:36am

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Bond 50 Amazon UK update [In reply to] Can't Post

Today Amazon UK finally made Bond 50 available again. The price is £90.00.

Whenever I order from Amazon UK (from New Zealand) it deducts tax, so the total ended up being £75.00 plus £3.58 shipping, for a total of £78.58 which is currently $126.85 (USD). Not bad!




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