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Elessar
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Aug 2 2013, 7:31pm
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Back @ ya That would be a nice surprise. I kept waiting and waiting for an announcement. I was hoping there would be one at comic-con but when there wasn't I a bit bummed. So getting the news now makes up for it and the images of the gift set make it even better. It being not that far off gives me something to look forward to.
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DanielLB
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Aug 2 2013, 7:35pm
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While I was digging through the archives ...
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I realised that the theatrical edition DVDs for the LOTR trilogy came out in August. I had completely forgotten about that. Can you imagine what that would've been like this time around? Eru knows what kind of mess we'd all be in. The countdown begins!
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Ham_Sammy
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Aug 2 2013, 8:37pm
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There would have been a total meltdown
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complete and total. Good reminder.
Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13
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Silverlode
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Aug 2 2013, 8:46pm
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"Permutations of perturbation" just made my day. Thanks, Darkstone.
Silverlode "Dark is the water of Kheled-zâram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-nâla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dûm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."
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Lusitano
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Aug 2 2013, 8:51pm
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i am not overtly fond of most of auj, WB etc...i dont have my hopes up, and feel in the mood for cheering up and be happy about it... My main interest in the EE is on fixing one of aujs major flaws, IE sidetracking the hobbit himself to a secondary character role after the Trolls, and some more dwarvish and elvish character development.... If these 12 minutes turn out be just about the main character, mr baggins and then we had the other stuff, i would be more satisfied and might enjoy the film a little more... But i dont expect them to be just about Bilbo...do you? So, the minute count does count, for me, since i feel the film is seriously lacking in some regards and 25 minutes gave me some more hope that some flaws would be addressed and the characters would have more room and time to breathe and be better developed... If we had a list of the new scenes....that would help... Besides, having a Pro Jackson and the Evil Coven stance is not my style , you know that
Vous commencez à m'ennuyer avec le port!!!
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Darkstone
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Aug 2 2013, 9:18pm
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Glad to put a smile on your face!
****************************************** The audacious proposal stirred his heart. And the stirring became a song, and it mingled with the songs of Gil-galad and Celebrian, and with those of Feanor and Fingon. The song-weaving created a larger song, and then another, until suddenly it was as if a long forgotten memory woke and for one breathtaking moment the Music of the Ainur revealed itself in all glory. He opened his lips to sing and share this song. Then he realized that the others would not understand. Not even Mithrandir given his current state of mind. So he smiled and simply said "A diversion.”
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Darkstone
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Aug 2 2013, 9:26pm
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Viggo said he preferred that the LOTR films speak for themselves. As for other audio commentaries: http://www.avclub.com/...racks-of-the-damned/
****************************************** The audacious proposal stirred his heart. And the stirring became a song, and it mingled with the songs of Gil-galad and Celebrian, and with those of Feanor and Fingon. The song-weaving created a larger song, and then another, until suddenly it was as if a long forgotten memory woke and for one breathtaking moment the Music of the Ainur revealed itself in all glory. He opened his lips to sing and share this song. Then he realized that the others would not understand. Not even Mithrandir given his current state of mind. So he smiled and simply said "A diversion.”
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DanielLB
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Aug 2 2013, 9:57pm
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12 minutes? Don't forget that extra one!
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It might make all the difference, Lusitano. Shagrat did a splendid job here, of guesstimating known extended scenes and their length. They seem to be all the major changes, but I'm sure there will be 30 seconds here and there. At least there are >6 hours of film left to go. If one doesn't like 1/3 of the trilogy, then maybe the other 2/3 will make up for it. Who knows!
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dormouse
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Aug 2 2013, 10:04pm
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Expect the new scenes to be all about Bilbo?
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No, I don't. Some of them will, like the scene with Elrond that they've shown us. But then, I don't accept that Bilbo is a secondary character so for me there's nothing to 'fix'. In the film I saw, Bilbo was central right through. So I'm just happy to have extra scenes, and right now I don't think I really want a list of them - though I have read the outline in the Empire article. I just want them to be a surprise, and if they show any more 'sneak peeks' I hope I'll be strong enough not to look.
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Ham_Sammy
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Aug 2 2013, 10:10pm
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I felt AUJ was entirely Bilbo centric. I never felt like he was second fiddle at all.
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Starling
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Aug 2 2013, 10:11pm
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I really don't like commentaries
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and I never listen to them. I don't find them at all interesting, and for me it is like sitting in a movie and having an annoying person sitting beside me and talking through the whole film. Although some of the commentaries on the link you posted look like real treats.
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Silverlode
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Aug 2 2013, 10:28pm
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Not all commentaries are created equal.
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It really depends on the people whether the commentary is fun, like hanging out with friends who know all the inside stuff about the thing you're watching, or boring and annoying like a technical lecture on watching paint dry. Commentaries on re-releases that are filmed long after the original filming tend to be fairly uninteresting, as everyone has forgotten most of the details and they can't remember why "X" was done, or why "Y" did that other thing, or even who guest star "Z" was. And some directors go on and on and on about technical issues with camera lenses and filters and use jargon that only camera buffs know about or are interested in. Cast commentaries depend a great deal on the chemistry of the group. Some just spend the whole time goofing off with each other and don't pay much attention to things onscreen. Others have nothing to say. But some tell great stories and talk about stuff that went on behind the scenes and that can be lots of fun. You just never know until you try them.
Silverlode "Dark is the water of Kheled-zâram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-nâla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dûm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."
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Lusitano
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Aug 2 2013, 10:31pm
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Bah, but that minute's off the schedule Even the smallest minute can change the course of a film! Well if the extended edition were fat and juicy enough, one could raise one's hopes to celestial levels, as far as the underworld of purist edits go If that list is accurate, and i agree it seems to be, then for me its a bit disappointing. I guess hoping for a much more filled with bilbo rivendell, is just a fools hope. One or two scenes most likely. I dont suppose the elves making fun of the dwarves beards is a possibility...unless thats what sets the dwarves off into the nastiness jackson mentioned.... If the other two thirds were as good as the misty mountains scene, then yes, they might please me more. But someone else directed that section so... I see your point dormhouse. But i feel it needs to be fixed. For me, post trolls, i remember some warg chases, a lot of yelling, some elves and dwarves being nasty and making fun of each other, thorin yet again asserting the importance of his legacy, elrond being his grumpy self, a joke between balin and bilbo, azog being a bad boy, the entire white council section and then Bilbo ressurfaces from the mist of the valley with a yearning and an expression of affection, revealing some unseen -by us- connection between him and the elves down below... For me, he took the role of a secondary character until the riddles... So i was hoping that would be fixed!
Vous commencez à m'ennuyer avec le port!!!
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Ham_Sammy
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Aug 2 2013, 10:39pm
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I'm not real fond of the commentaries on the older films (like This is Spinal Tap) etc. It does very much depend on the chemistry and I agree it can be totally boring. It tends to be interesting when they talk and intersperse comments about the scene or things they were observing etc. versus a lot of technical stuff. I really felt though The Hobbit needed a cast track. Maybe it just didn't work out. One thing I had not considered and just thought of a few minutes ago is because of the scaling involved so much of the filming had to be done slave motion with the actors on different sets being filmed at the same time. Maybe that made commentary more difficult because really they were not talking with each other in the scene but to a tennis ball. I don't know. That may have been some of it.
Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13
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Starling
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Aug 2 2013, 11:29pm
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I just don't like commentaries full stop, because I don't like people talking over movies. So for me, it really makes little difference how good the commentary is.
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Elessar
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Aug 2 2013, 11:41pm
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I never use them myself for the same reason. I want to hear the movie not someone talking about while it plays. Now, give me those people talking about it in a seperate interview and we're golden.
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Starling
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Aug 2 2013, 11:48pm
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Who's bringing the popcorn?
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Elessar
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Aug 3 2013, 12:46am
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Lets do this!!
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Starling
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Aug 3 2013, 1:08am
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Just the small matter of plane tickets to arrange...
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angelclaw
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Aug 3 2013, 2:43am
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Was the in-character commentary on This is Spinal Tap, IMO. I would love an in-character commentary on AUJ or any of its successors, but sadly I doubt that will ever happen. Now that I've thought about it more, I believe most of the cast was so busy during the time between the release of the TE and the EE that perhaps it just wasn't feasible to have a cast commentary, and that I can kind of understand, although I'm still disappointed. I just hope someday, or at least on the next two films, we'll get a cast commentary as I usually find those the most entertaining - especially with a great ensemble cast like this that obviously has some great chemistry!
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Elessar
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Aug 3 2013, 4:57am
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Ole William Shatner can find me a good deal. Lol
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Rosie-with-the-ribbons
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Aug 3 2013, 9:30am
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while I do cross stitch. I can't really watch tv, too focused on the cross stitch. So I listen to the commentaries, sometime looking up, seeing what they are talking about, and than back to my stitching. So to me it is more a seperate interview, which happens to have moving images in it .
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dormouse
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Aug 3 2013, 10:30am
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I've tried to listen to them, but I always end up wishing they would stop talking so I can enjoy the film. I really enjoy the documentary sections but that's different - if I'm watching the film itself I want the film, not the chatter.
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