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Bilbo and the ring plot twist/reveal scenario

Swingcatpdx
The Shire

Jul 27 2013, 10:58pm

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Bilbo and the ring plot twist/reveal scenario Can't Post

On the original trailer we saw a small scene where Bilbo sees the Sword that was broken for the first time. Additionally, briefly standing with Elrond talking.

We know he has now found the ring and used it's powers and it's begun taking immediate hold of him.

Scenario: Bilbo speaking with Elrond and Elrond is explaining the history of the sword and that it is the sword that Isildur cut the one ring from Sauron's very hand. He further explains that Isildur was killed and the ring lost for over 3,000 years. Bilbo realizes the rings "magical" powers. He puts two and two together and surmises that it is in fact THE ONE RING.

Cut to the ending scene of TABA: Bilbo at his desk with the red book in Bag End. The final words of the saga are
"THE RING IS MINE!!!, MY PRECIOUS!!!..............fade to credits, theme music plays.

The net result: BILBO KNEW ALL ALONG!!


(This post was edited by Swingcatpdx on Jul 27 2013, 11:04pm)


Shagrat
Gondor

Jul 27 2013, 11:05pm

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With all due respect [In reply to] Can't Post

That ending would be terrible Tongue


Yngwulff
Gondor


Jul 28 2013, 2:42am

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no [In reply to] Can't Post

bad

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.



FrogmortonJustice65
Rivendell


Jul 28 2013, 5:17am

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Only if M Night shyamalan were directing the Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post

*vomits*

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Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Jul 28 2013, 3:16pm

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I hope that this is meant in jest. [In reply to] Can't Post

If not then it is really a terrible idea.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


shadowdog
Rohan

Jul 28 2013, 3:49pm

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Don't think so [In reply to] Can't Post

Even Gandalf didn't know that the ring was the RING until after he saw how Bilbo was being affected by the ring at his farewell party and Gandalf went off and researched it. He then came back to have Frodo check the ring after it was placed in the fire. I don't think Bilbo ever knew what the ring was.


Sinister71
Tol Eressea


Jul 28 2013, 7:22pm

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even then [In reply to] Can't Post

Gandalf didn't "know", suspected yes, but he still wasn't completely sure till he threw it in the fire. I agree completely that Bilbo never knew the true nature of the ring.

As to the OP I think they need to leave it being the "one ring" out of the rest of the Hobbit. It IMO has no place what so ever in the story and simply confuses things. Making Gandalf look foolish for not realizing it earlier. I think they have already overplayed the rings true nature... So for me the less said about the ring other than it being a simple magic ring which grants its wearer invisibility, the better


(This post was edited by sinister71 on Jul 28 2013, 7:24pm)


Try-again-later
The Shire

Jul 29 2013, 8:54am

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I laughed [In reply to] Can't Post

Nice one Tongue


Werde Spinner
Rohan


Jul 29 2013, 4:10pm

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I don't know whether [In reply to] Can't Post

to giggle at the very idea of such a trilogy ending with, "My precious!" or to sit in horrified silence at the idea.

I'm going to assume that this is a joke, therefore, and giggle. Nice one.

On a more serious note, I don't think Elrond would tell Bilbo the whole ramifications about the One Ring, seeing as how neither Bilbo nor Elrond had *any* idea at that point that BIlbo would providentially find it. So Bilbo would then have no way of knowing all along.

Besides, there were lesser rings. It was only once the Ring gave long life that it became known as one of the greater Rings, so it might have taken anyone a while to come to that conclusion. (Of course, there's its effect on Gollum, but BIlbo really had no way of knowing he'd been down there for 500 years.)

"I had forgotten that. It is hard to be sure of anything among so many marvels. The world is all grown strange. Elf and Dwarf in company walk in our daily fields; and folk speak with the Lady of the Wood and yet live; and the Sword comes back to war that was broken in the long ages ere the fathers of our fathers rode into the Mark! How shall a man judge what to do in such times?"

"As he ever has judged. Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."


malickfan
Gondor


Jul 30 2013, 10:02am

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No offense... [In reply to] Can't Post

...But that was one of the worst ideas I have ever heard suggested on this forum, even Phillpa Boyens wouldn't stoop that low Wink

The Talking Purse is Awesome, deal with it.

But he isn't quite as aweome as Cirdan.


Sinister71
Tol Eressea


Jul 30 2013, 10:32pm

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I'm offended [In reply to] Can't Post

 TongueWinkWink

not really I think its a awful idea as well

 
 

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