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Who should sing the Desolation of Smaug credits-song ?!
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RosieLass
Valinor


Jul 24 2013, 11:05pm

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As long as it's not as awful as Gollum's Song, I don't really have a preference. [In reply to] Can't Post

I didn't really like any of the "pop" end credit songs in LOTR.

I did like Neil Finn's version of the Misty Mountain song, though, so they've made a much better start with these films.

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Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Jul 24 2013, 11:26pm

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Totally [In reply to] Can't Post

I did enjoy all of the LOTR songs (except for Emiliana Torrini's) but I loved Neil Finn's Misty Mountains song at the end of AUJ. I thought it was terrific.

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Werde Spinner
Rohan


Jul 24 2013, 11:57pm

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ROFL [In reply to] Can't Post

Now I am reminded of fanvids where people sing Justin Bieber's song in Gollum's voice... I always imagined the purse to have a very squeaky voice...

Hey, Talking Purse Fan Club!! (You know who you are.) Does anyone have an explanation for how the talking purse actually talks? Does it have a tape recorder in it? Does it manipulate the air to produce sound audible by the average Hobbit, Dwarf (and presumably Mannish, Elvish, and Wizardly) ear in Middle-earth? Or is it a *telepathic* Talking Purse? Tongue Laugh Curious minds want to know!

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"As he ever has judged. Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."


Werde Spinner
Rohan


Jul 25 2013, 12:01am

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I have no idea for the actual singer [In reply to] Can't Post

but I am willing to bet that the song will be about Smaug in some form or other, seeing as how TTT had "Gollum's Song" as a villain song for that installment of the trilogy. Cannot help but think that DOS will follow its lead. That being said, I am hoping Smaug will inspire a more listen-able song than "Gollum's Song" as I find that one creepy in the extreme and usually have to skip it when I listen to the soundtrack. Actually, that is a compliment to the talent of the artist! Captured Gollum's essence very well in song.

...Now I am imagining what it would have sounded like if Gollum had done the credits song for TTT... *pauses a moment, then starts giggling*

Sly I haven't seen anyone suggesting that, since RA didn't get to do the credits song for AUJ after all, that they should make up for that by having Benedict Cumberbatch do the DOS one. Does he sing? I don't know. I just had a funny thought.

I swear, I haven't had much chocolate today. I don't know why my brain is making me type all these random things. Hopefully they provide some amusement for you all. Smile

"I had forgotten that. It is hard to be sure of anything among so many marvels. The world is all grown strange. Elf and Dwarf in company walk in our daily fields; and folk speak with the Lady of the Wood and yet live; and the Sword comes back to war that was broken in the long ages ere the fathers of our fathers rode into the Mark! How shall a man judge what to do in such times?"

"As he ever has judged. Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."


Ziggy Stardust
Gondor


Jul 25 2013, 12:14am

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I have a whole list of people I think should sing the credits song [In reply to] Can't Post

After Neil Finn, I'm hoping they will find another New Wave artist. My choices are Nik Kershaw, the frontman for the Thompson Twins (I forget his name), Morten Harket of A-Ha, or Dave Gahan of Depeche Mode. I'm listening to Depeche Mode right now as a matter of fact, and if you want a more threatening and mysterious song, Dave Gahan is perfect.


(This post was edited by Ziggy Stardust on Jul 25 2013, 12:15am)


Ziggy Stardust
Gondor


Jul 25 2013, 12:18am

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Absolutely right [In reply to] Can't Post

They were especially well-known in Europe and are part of the New Wave/Alternative scene. They play Crowded House all the time on SiriusXm First Wave.


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 25 2013, 1:17am

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Yes, that's what "known worldwide" means... [In reply to] Can't Post

 And again, not known as a solo artist (however his band may have appealed to alternative audiences in 1985).

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Jul 25 2013, 1:22am)


Barrow-Wight
Rohan


Jul 25 2013, 1:57am

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'm still hoping... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm still hoping for Eddie Vedder. I wish he would cover "The Greatest Adventure" from the Rankin/Bass Hobbit but that will never happen


Bumblingidiot
Rohan

Jul 25 2013, 2:04am

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The last two sounded very much part of the pop world. [In reply to] Can't Post

The first two songs were nearly perfect, but the last two - particularly Annie Lennox's, suffered from the mid-Atlantic treatment that is the default mode of the music biz. They disconnected me from the world being depicted just as effectively as Legolas' surfer dude moment. I'd hope for someone(s) who can provide a sound that fits in with the notion of a distant past. A good choir - Kings College for example, or similar, or even a Welsh male voice choir if the song is suitable for that sound. However, I think a Sami musician may be the answer - given that this is an Anglo-Scandinavian tale, with trolls and dragons, and the massive influence of Finnish on Tolkien's writings. Also, I think a Sami musician would know how to sing about a bunch of people who've been dispossessed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46WW3D5a_TU

or Sofia Jannok

or especially Mari Boine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYevBLUtuLc

I'd love to hear that voice on the multi watsit surround thingy at the cinema - I can but dream I suppose.


Alerik
The Shire

Jul 25 2013, 3:12am

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Greg Lake [In reply to] Can't Post

Something along these lines : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Ippzdh0Qg


angelclaw
Bree

Jul 25 2013, 3:48am

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Till Lindemann [In reply to] Can't Post

Of Rammstein, naturally. There would be a live version with lots of pyro, where all the band members dress up like Dwarves and Till pretends to shoot Flake with a flaming arrow Wink


utku
Rivendell


Jul 25 2013, 6:57am

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Yes, definitely Nick Cave! [In reply to] Can't Post

And I think he should go as dark as he can go. If the theme song is as haunting as, I don't know, The Weeping Song it would be spectacular. If not for DoS, for the final film at least. Nick Cave doing a song for the trilogy would be a dream come true for me. And he attended to the London premier of AUJ with his family so I can only imagine he is a fan and would be willing to do it if he is asked. I feel like this is such a high possiblity that if it doesn't happen I'd be disappointed. :(




DeadRabbits
Lorien


Jul 25 2013, 7:52am

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I love that song. [In reply to] Can't Post

And I can't find one single so called "gangsta" reference in the lyrics, so I can't really understand why you refer to it as "gangsta rap". I love old gangsta rap though - NWA, Ice Cube, Biggie, Dr Dre, etc. However, there's not so many hiphop acts that can be classified as "gangsta" nowaydays.

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patrickk
Rohan

Jul 25 2013, 7:58am

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Nli Finn and Crowded House were rather big in the US in the 1990s [In reply to] Can't Post


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They don't know Finn by name (your quote) = obscure. Having vague familiarity with some long-ago songs doesn't count. And I know several people who hadn't heard of him until AUJ.

And btw, the OP also called Finn "unknown".

But let's just argue for the sake of arguing, shall we?


I don't think Niel Finn can be called unknown with the global success he and Crowded House had in the 1990s (after PJ and maybe Sir Edmund Hillary probably the most famous kiwi). Actually I don't like his version of Misty Mountains there is a much better version sung by a fan on the OneRing Net. Annie Lennox would have done a much better job of it.


jtarkey
Rohan


Jul 25 2013, 8:57am

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I'm gonna say it until someone finally notices... [In reply to] Can't Post

SAM BEAM of Iron and Wine...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHOPwsyYxtU

I can just hear something like this at the end of TABA. It would be sublime.

It's such a shame that he got most of his fame from having a song in Twilight. I can say, without remorse or regret, that this guys lyrics are some of the most amazing combinations of words I've ever heard. Listen to "Trapeze Swinger" or "Walking Far from home" for proof...

I also need to say this...

The man has a beard that "dwarfs" Sly Thorin Oakenshield himself

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(This post was edited by jtarkey on Jul 25 2013, 9:05am)


sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea


Jul 25 2013, 10:11am

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Peter Gabriel would be my choice [In reply to] Can't Post

for one of the next two films (i'd prefer him for the third film, though). And i love Nic Cave, i just don't know if he'd be a good fit in Middle-earth. I'd be for giving it a shot, though. Sting would be an alright choice, too.


painjoiker
Grey Havens


Jul 25 2013, 11:56am

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What about Juha-Pekka Leppäluoto [In reply to] Can't Post

If you want dark and creepy, this is the guy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt6Obe4tk3s
A wonderful coversong as well Smile

Vocalist in the progressive metal band Renamed.


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Jul 25 2013, 5:17pm

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Okay I can see Sting performing a song for one of the films [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't think that Jackson & Company are necessarily committed to having a male vocalist for each of the three films. Still, for the sake of argument: David Arkenstone?

Or, totally off-the-wall: They Might be Giants.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Escapist
Gondor


Jul 25 2013, 5:44pm

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David Bowie [In reply to] Can't Post

and he should make his best Thrandy impression in the video for it - with goblins and all like in Labyrinth


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Jul 25 2013, 5:46pm

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I will admit... [In reply to] Can't Post

...I have considered Bowie as a possibility.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


daemoon
Rivendell

Jul 25 2013, 7:16pm

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I'm hoping for a darker song so... [In reply to] Can't Post

Tom Waits (remember the crazy Smaug rumors?), Nick Cave or Peter Murphy.


Starling
Half-elven


Jul 25 2013, 7:56pm

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Pete Murphy? [In reply to] Can't Post

I could definitely get on board with that idea - he's one of my favourites. Cool


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 26 2013, 12:10am

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Represent, yo! [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for your thoughts on the classifications of rap. That was dope!

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Jul 26 2013, 12:11am

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Agreed, Peter Gabriel could certainly be a viable choice... [In reply to] Can't Post

especially if the song for film 2 is "Smaug's".

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Ziggy Stardust
Gondor


Jul 26 2013, 1:23am

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Me too [In reply to] Can't Post

but I don't know if he'd be "too old" for the producers. Unsure

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