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beards grow and considerations

Kili Son of Dis
The Shire

Jul 23 2013, 3:32pm

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Hello to all you guys!
I wanted to bring to your attention a thought on the development of the beards of the Dwarves in the course of the films of "The Hobbit". Beginning with the next film, "The Desolation of Smaug", we know that the Dwarves will face the rugged and dangerous cavity of Mirkwood, only to be kidnapped by the Elves of Thranduil and then escape through the barrels! In all this I think any of us have imagined, that the beards and braids of each Dwarf will melt and will make an impression even more Dwarven some characters such as Nori, Dori and Bofur. Not only that, I have the distinct impression that something very interesting that might only be in the third and final film in the trilogy, "The Hobbit": Richard Armitage, recently gave an explanation as to whether the little beard Thorin, Fili and Kili. He said that is a sign of mourning about the loss of their family and the death of Thror, King under the Mountain. Now, I think that PJ is thinking what I'm about to say for a long time and it will be a surprise for all of us. I think the last chapter of the saga, just Thorin, Fili and Kili, when will fall in battle, they will have a beard much longer than what we see. The fallen in battle of the Company of Dwarves, covered with armor and new weapons, looking a bit like the scene in "The Return of the King" in which Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli down from the pirate ship of Umbar. Returning to the central part of the speech, I think Thorin, Fili and Kili have a beard much longer, since the separation of time between the start on the journey and the Battle of the five armies, is very long. I think it will be a nice surprise for all of us.Smile What do you think about that? ideas?

Hello to all! Wink

"Many who live deserve death, and many of those that die deserve life. You are able to assess, Frodo? Do not be too eager to bestow death and judgment. Even the wisest do not know all the outcomes."

The Shire

Jul 23 2013, 4:51pm

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Ori [In reply to] Can't Post

In the latest video blog you can see that Ori's beard has grown a lot more, which is nice. Nori and Bomburs hair have also fallen into disrepairLaugh


Jul 23 2013, 5:25pm

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Just don't forget . . . [In reply to] Can't Post

They get a chance to clean up in Laketown. Just before they go to meet Smaug!

Tol Eressea

Jul 23 2013, 7:51pm

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As much as I would like to see the beards grow, I don't think it will happen.

Dwarves are extremely hairy, and since they don't cut their beards except for shame or grief, I would say that they must grow very very (as in a millimeter per year) slowly, otherwise the dwarves who don't cut their beards would have Rapunzel beards!

Though that could be humorous, I would think it more likely that they grow extremely slowly, and what "lengthening" we happen to see in the films is due primarily to their elaborate hair do's and beard braids coming undone to show their suffering and hardship as they spend more and more time in the wilds, specifically Mirkwood, and then become half drowned look-like-the-cat-dragged-them-in dwarves after barrels.

Having extremely curly hair (and long, though it isn't long enough for my tastes yet!), I know that the difference between my sopping wet hair that is straightened briefly (due to the weight of the water) is about five inches less than my hair curly when it is dry, and if I were to braid it, it loses two more inches easily in the process.

So, if a dwarf's hair (and/or beard) is braided, especially intricately as we have seen, then it begins to come undone, it will appear to have grown, but its just looser and hangs lower, and when you add it getting wet, that lengthens it to the eye even more, though it actually hasn't grown much.

As to whether or not PJ&co actually have them grow it out, that remains to be seen. But given their reasons (emotion, expression, plus that inevitable relatability and "hot" factor that they seem to be focused on) for having the line of Durin's heirs have shorter beards, I doubt it.


The impact and connection Thorin, Fili, and Kili have on the audience, especially when it comes to relatability (and "hotness" for all those fangirls out there!) will be EXTREMELY important in their death scenes, otherwise the impact may be lessened. I have no doubt that PJ&co are going to want the audience sobbing their eyes out at those scenes, and if, due to their beards growing more, they have a slightly harder time relating, the impact the production crew desires will not be as high.

So, IMO, I think its just the dishevelment and wear and tear of travel that makes the dwarves' beards and hair seem longer as their journey progresses. But, feel free to correct me if I am proven wrong with DOS and TABA come out Cool

Half Elven Daughter of Celethian of the Woodland Realm


Jul 24 2013, 12:15am

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Movie beards don't grow. [In reply to] Can't Post

Aragorn traveled through the wilderness for months with a 3-day stubble. For that matter, Sam starved for months without losing an ounce of weight. Once a movie character gets a "look" that tends to be it.


Jul 26 2013, 1:52pm

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In the picture that PJ posted yesterday [In reply to] Can't Post

Kili does have more of a beard than he did in AUJ


We'll have to see if that ever ends up meaning anything.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


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