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Will the real purist please stand up?

The Mitch King
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Jul 21 2013, 7:15am


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So we all have our opinions on AUJ but there are those who think the book is inerrant AND perfect for film too. My question is a simple one. Do any self proclaimed purists(I disagree that there is a single correct interpretation of Tolkien's work) think that Peter Jackson's interpretation is awesome? I am curious to know if there is any disagreement amongst purists. I think reading and watching are two different beasts personally. If there is an argument for being a purist I would love to hear it! Entertainment is very subjective no?

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Will the real purist please stand up? The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King Jul 21 2013, 7:15am
    He did some things right, some wrong, in LotR. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Jul 21 2013, 7:38am
        Bombadil.. MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jul 21 2013, 7:57am
            Agreed.// Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Jul 21 2013, 7:59am
            So what? aarondirebear Send a private message to aarondirebear Jul 26 2013, 2:03pm
        after watching Rankin/Bass Return Of The King Barrow-Wight Send a private message to Barrow-Wight Jul 21 2013, 8:12am
            I refuse to watch the Rankin/Bass for the reasons you listed Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Jul 22 2013, 12:07am
                and they also forgot Barrow-Wight Send a private message to Barrow-Wight Jul 22 2013, 12:45am
        No need for me to post now. Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Jul 21 2013, 8:36am
        Pretty much spot on. Bumpypotato Send a private message to Bumpypotato Jul 21 2013, 9:17am
        you forgot Faramir...also, FrogmortonJustice65 Send a private message to FrogmortonJustice65 Jul 21 2013, 5:08pm
            I can't speak for Elizabeth. RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Jul 21 2013, 10:49pm
            "Arwen is leaving/dying" Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Jul 25 2013, 7:39am
                Arwen dying Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 25 2013, 2:43pm
                    "The failing...may then be ascribed... to the evil of Arda Marred..." Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jul 25 2013, 2:57pm
                        That is what I always thought, Darkenstone and Brethil. Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 25 2013, 3:00pm
                            Yes but... Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Jul 25 2013, 6:16pm
                                Yes, but I think the whole point they were making... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jul 25 2013, 7:32pm
                                    Much better than the book. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jul 25 2013, 7:39pm
                                        No clue ArdamŪrŽ Send a private message to ArdamŪrŽ Jul 25 2013, 8:38pm
                                    Elrond implied her death was imminent... Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Jul 26 2013, 7:18am
                                    Arwen ..Laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth Michelle Johnston Jul 26 2013, 3:20pm
                        Excellent reference - thank you Darkstone! // Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 25 2013, 3:09pm
                        what lead Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Jul 25 2013, 5:33pm
                False jeopardy arcs Michelle Johnston Jul 27 2013, 9:46pm
        Agreed aruman Send a private message to aruman Jul 21 2013, 9:42pm
        You hit it! Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Jul 22 2013, 12:05am
        I agree with you on much of this. In a few instances I FERVENTLY AGREE. On a few other points I have some contention. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jul 24 2013, 9:01am
            It's funny you mentioned Frodo wearing pants in Cirith Ungol... jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Jul 24 2013, 9:06am
                I didn't expect full nudity. But I also thought it ridiculous to have trousers. A loincloth AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jul 24 2013, 10:05am
            RE Gandalf vs. the Witch King Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Jul 25 2013, 7:52am
                Absolutely agree. About this and the eariler "Arwen 'passing' as superflous refuse", but especially about this. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jul 26 2013, 10:22pm
        I insist on the entire Red Book-- not JRRT's shoddy abridged version.// L. Ron Halfelven Send a private message to L. Ron Halfelven Jul 26 2013, 4:46pm
    What is a purist? dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jul 21 2013, 8:41am
    I would call myself a "Cinematic Purist" jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Jul 21 2013, 11:33am
        "Star Wars" you mean? Inferno Send a private message to Inferno Jul 21 2013, 1:51pm
            Inferno, I agree with your whole post ... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 21 2013, 10:22pm
            I understand Your point but Disagree IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Jul 22 2013, 6:09pm
                The interesting thing for me Inferno Send a private message to Inferno Jul 22 2013, 8:44pm
                    Agree about The Silmarillion IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Jul 22 2013, 8:59pm
                    I have the opposite problem malickfan Send a private message to malickfan Jul 23 2013, 12:55pm
                        I am a book and movie fan. Noria Send a private message to Noria Jul 23 2013, 1:31pm
                    Thank you for a very reasoned opinion, Inferno g-stormcrow Jul 23 2013, 11:13pm
        I think shadowdog Send a private message to shadowdog Jul 21 2013, 3:50pm
        I respectfully disagree... Morthoron Send a private message to Morthoron Jul 21 2013, 5:22pm
            I agree with you. // geordie Send a private message to geordie Jul 21 2013, 5:37pm
            Good points aruman Send a private message to aruman Jul 21 2013, 9:50pm
                Or better yet... Morthoron Send a private message to Morthoron Jul 22 2013, 12:11am
            Did someone say 'XenArwen'? Inferno Send a private message to Inferno Jul 22 2013, 1:49am
                Wait, has she got horns?? Or have her ears over-grown? / Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Jul 22 2013, 2:47am
                    I believe those are just ridiculous-length ears. // Inferno Send a private message to Inferno Jul 22 2013, 3:39am
    I do not like those categories. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Jul 21 2013, 11:49am
        AGREE Buchanicus Send a private message to Buchanicus Jul 22 2013, 1:31am
            And it does feel like a class-system Buchanicus Send a private message to Buchanicus Jul 22 2013, 1:55am
                Yeah, how dare they? Inferno Send a private message to Inferno Jul 22 2013, 2:00am
                    Haha! Buchanicus Send a private message to Buchanicus Jul 22 2013, 3:22am
                To join the Purist Front of Judea you've got to REALLY hate the movies.// L. Ron Halfelven Send a private message to L. Ron Halfelven Jul 22 2013, 2:19am
                    I thought it was the Judean Purist Front... or was it Purists'? I'm confused!// Arandiel Send a private message to Arandiel Jul 22 2013, 5:18pm
    Not me. Noria Send a private message to Noria Jul 21 2013, 12:08pm
        Oh yes, I like a good deal of it! jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Jul 21 2013, 12:11pm
    Being true to a book and any book really Welsh hero Send a private message to Welsh hero Jul 21 2013, 4:46pm
    'Real lunatics don't join them, I think'. geordie Send a private message to geordie Jul 21 2013, 5:36pm
    As the only true purist, I deplore the movie's lack of a binding.// L. Ron Halfelven Send a private message to L. Ron Halfelven Jul 21 2013, 8:06pm
        Do you prefer leather or cloth? // RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Jul 21 2013, 10:54pm
        That, undoubtedly, is the purest bit of purism... Morthoron Send a private message to Morthoron Jul 22 2013, 12:02am
        And gold leaf. What happened to standards? // Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Jul 22 2013, 2:33am
    Re: Retro315 Send a private message to Retro315 Jul 22 2013, 2:55am
    Once upon a time... Kathuphazg‚n Send a private message to Kathuphazg‚n Jul 22 2013, 3:05am
        That's a great little anecdote! demnation Send a private message to demnation Jul 22 2013, 4:05am
        Thanks for sharing that, K. And I, as a purist, proudly stand up! Altaira Send a private message to Altaira Jul 22 2013, 4:37am
        Shippey's books are fantastic! RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Jul 22 2013, 4:03pm
            I think JRRT may have liked Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Jul 22 2013, 4:34pm
            I just can't see Tolkien liking the movies either. Noria Send a private message to Noria Jul 24 2013, 12:30pm
                and some. Michelle Johnston Jul 24 2013, 9:43pm
        Tom Shippey knows more about what JRR would dis/like than Christopher? g-stormcrow Jul 23 2013, 9:09pm
            I don't think that's what was said entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Jul 23 2013, 9:46pm
                I'm pretty sure that's exactly what was said g-stormcrow Jul 23 2013, 11:00pm
                    YOU introduced Christopher Tolkien. entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Jul 23 2013, 11:37pm
                        "Demanded" is a pretty strong word g-stormcrow Jul 24 2013, 4:57am
                            "Reasonable debate" does not include... RosieLass Send a private message to RosieLass Jul 24 2013, 3:19pm
                                Then it was YOU with the candlestick in the kitchen who introduced Christopher Tolkien!!! **GASP** g-stormcrow Jul 24 2013, 8:00pm
                                    Let's move on entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Jul 24 2013, 8:21pm
                                        If I could ask to add my opinion briefly, GoBlue Send a private message to GoBlue Jul 25 2013, 2:37am
                                            I think reading ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Jul 25 2013, 7:39am
                                                Frankly, Jackson did much better than Zimmerman. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Jul 25 2013, 8:04am
                                                    Agreed ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Jul 25 2013, 11:20am
                                                    studio claptrap Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Jul 25 2013, 2:28pm
                                                    I wouldn't call the films disastrous. Given the time alloted them, both the animated Hobbit and the AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jul 26 2013, 10:27pm
                On Shippey - Well, yes and no, I think - geordie Send a private message to geordie Jul 24 2013, 9:39am
        Great story K! Glad you had that chance meeting...! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 23 2013, 10:25pm
            What always amazes me about the Zimmerman letter... Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jul 24 2013, 2:55pm
                Absolutely Darkstone! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 24 2013, 4:59pm
        Assuming Tom Shippey even exists and you're not just making him up ;-)..... L. Ron Halfelven Send a private message to L. Ron Halfelven Jul 24 2013, 1:48pm
            For what it's worth - geordie Send a private message to geordie Jul 24 2013, 2:38pm
                Powerful subjects: religion and politics... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 24 2013, 8:17pm
        Thank you for sharing the very charming personal anecdote. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jul 24 2013, 2:42pm
    JRRT as always provides the answer Michelle Johnston Jul 22 2013, 10:50am
    I was once a purist Werde Spinner Send a private message to Werde Spinner Jul 22 2013, 8:26pm
    well elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Jul 23 2013, 2:43pm
    PJ's interpretation of AUJ turned me into a book purist Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Jul 23 2013, 8:01pm
    Me, I was harsh with LOTR trilogy, now I am pleased with The Hobbit Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Jul 24 2013, 7:30pm
    Purist is a badge of honor aarondirebear Send a private message to aarondirebear Jul 26 2013, 2:00pm
        Purism? Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Jul 26 2013, 4:28pm
            Faithfull translation ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Jul 26 2013, 9:26pm
                And the 'little' things Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Jul 27 2013, 12:56am
                    As wrong as Gandalfs death speech is ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Jul 27 2013, 10:07am
                        next stop: Mandos Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Jul 27 2013, 2:20pm
    Is it too late to walk into this thread and declare I am the real purist? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Jul 26 2013, 3:57pm
        Hilarious ROFLOL!!! Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Jul 26 2013, 4:10pm
        "Bow"? Okay. (mutters *where's my violin...?*) Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jul 26 2013, 4:15pm

 
 
 

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