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galadriel and radagast battle it out at dol guldur ???!!!!
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boldog
Rohan

Jul 19 2013, 5:59am

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galadriel and radagast battle it out at dol guldur ???!!!! Can't Post

hi all, I just heard something quite confusing and strange from the one ring.nets facebook status. the link is attached below. it comes after a panel hosted by theonering.net. so what does this mean? the way I conceived it was that radagast and Galadriel will fight eachother! though im thinking I was wrong with that and they just mean they will be present fighting in dol guldur. any way what do you all think of this??
https://www.facebook.com/...p;type=1&theater

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NoelGallagher
Rohan


Jul 19 2013, 7:54am

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Strange... [In reply to] Can't Post

Was my first thought....how comes Gandalf ISNT involved ???!!! Is he prisoned there ?! Cause he gets Raddys staff,which Raddy should need for a battle...all that is confusing me even more!


(This post was edited by NoelGallagher on Jul 19 2013, 7:59am)


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 19 2013, 8:08am

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They won't fight each other [In reply to] Can't Post

They'll fight against the Necromancer, as is supposed to happen at the Battle of Dol Guldur (albeit, at a different time in Tolkien's timeline, and minus Radagast, possibly).

Nice to see it finally confirmed - we already knew they both had some role.

Call me a NARF, I think it's exciting! Anything to see Lady Galadriel destroy Dol Guldur.

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NoelGallagher
Rohan


Jul 19 2013, 8:12am

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It could fit in a way that Gandalf is imprisoned there after the "trap" ...staff gets broken by maybe Bolg. After the battle he gets it from:

A) Galadriel -Raddy dead- after she carried him out oft the fortress which was
mentioned a while ago
B) Radagast himself...alive,or he dies right after.

Btw, i think that this DG Stuff will look epic !

Ideas?!


(This post was edited by NoelGallagher on Jul 19 2013, 8:15am)


Calmandcloudless
Lorien


Jul 19 2013, 8:55am

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they'll be fighting over Gandalf, in the resolution of that particular love triangle. It's a pity they couldn't have tried solve their differences over coffee, rather than in the thick of an important battle in the history of Middle Earth - no wonder the Necromancer manages to escape....


Shagrat
Gondor

Jul 19 2013, 10:32am

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I suspect Gandalf will also be there [In reply to] Can't Post

But they just left him out since they probably assumed we'd know that anyway.

I just hope when Radagast is fighting in a serious situation like that they don't add any goofy stuff. They didn't do this when he fought the Witchking briefly in AUJ, so fingers crossed.


Salmacis81
Tol Eressea


Jul 19 2013, 11:37am

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Radagast's true identity... [In reply to] Can't Post

Maybe this means that the rumors are true, and Radagast is, in fact, the Necromancer...


deskp
Lorien

Jul 19 2013, 2:55pm

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Galadriels line that goes soemthing like this: "if you ever need my aid I will be there for you" (or soemthing) Has to get some resolution. Cause we all know shes no use when gandalf is figthing a balrog.


Imladris18
Lorien


Jul 19 2013, 3:21pm

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Poor Radagast [In reply to] Can't Post

Everyone wants him to die...

I don't :(


Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
Gondor


Jul 19 2013, 4:08pm

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What?! [In reply to] Can't Post

Please explain these "rumors" Laugh

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Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Jul 19 2013, 7:25pm

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Did someone mis-speak? [In reply to] Can't Post


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galadriel and radagast battle it out at dol guldur ???!!!!



It comes off to me as a poorly-worded remark. I doubt that Radagast and Lady Galadriel would be fighting each other.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Ataahua
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Jul 19 2013, 8:40pm

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Is it wrong [In reply to] Can't Post

that I would love to see this?

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Earl
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Jul 19 2013, 11:12pm

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Nothing is "confirmed" [In reply to] Can't Post

The TORn panel isn't confirming anything, it's meant to be a fan presentation of all the geeky things we've been speculating given the tidbits we've received thus far. So there's no "confirmation" that this happens.... unless I've missed something concerning the panel (which is absolutely possible Laugh)


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Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Jul 19 2013, 11:21pm

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Me too! [In reply to] Can't Post

I have always wanted to see the whole Dol Guldor battle and it looks like we will get our wish and with Galadriel there it's going to be awesome. I can't wait to see this.

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Werde Spinner
Rohan


Jul 20 2013, 1:52am

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Oh, NOW the truth comes out... [In reply to] Can't Post

I always wondered why and how Sauron got away.

This is seriously one of the best commentaries on these rumors (and occasionally confirmed facts) I have heard in a while. Thank you. Laugh

"I had forgotten that. It is hard to be sure of anything among so many marvels. The world is all grown strange. Elf and Dwarf in company walk in our daily fields; and folk speak with the Lady of the Wood and yet live; and the Sword comes back to war that was broken in the long ages ere the fathers of our fathers rode into the Mark! How shall a man judge what to do in such times?"

"As he ever has judged. Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."


Werde Spinner
Rohan


Jul 20 2013, 1:54am

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I don't either. :( [In reply to] Can't Post

I really don't understand why people don't like Radagast... I love him. He's so different from Gandalf and Saruman and yet so very wizardly in his own way.

('Wizardly'? Crazy Is that a word? Oh, well, if it's not I've just coined one.)

"I had forgotten that. It is hard to be sure of anything among so many marvels. The world is all grown strange. Elf and Dwarf in company walk in our daily fields; and folk speak with the Lady of the Wood and yet live; and the Sword comes back to war that was broken in the long ages ere the fathers of our fathers rode into the Mark! How shall a man judge what to do in such times?"

"As he ever has judged. Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."


Morthoron
Gondor


Jul 20 2013, 2:35am

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This trilogy's fan-fic subplots get dumber by the second. [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Jul 20 2013, 4:54am

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If Bolg, an orc captain, breaks the staff of one of THe Five Wizards I will walk out of the theatre, [In reply to] Can't Post

possibly vomiting as I go. Really Frown! Madness.

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It could fit in a way that Gandalf is imprisoned there after the "trap" ...staff gets broken by maybe Bolg. After the battle he gets it from:

A) Galadriel -Raddy dead- after she carried him out oft the fortress which was
mentioned a while ago
B) Radagast himself...alive,or he dies right after.

Btw, i think that this DG Stuff will look epic !

Ideas?!


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


DanielLB
Immortal


Jul 20 2013, 8:02am

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I am confused then [In reply to] Can't Post

It sounds pretty definitive by how they announced it on TORn facebook page. After all, a "scoop" isn't a scoop if it's a rumour. Wink

Confused now. CrazyCool

Coming soon! The first TORn Amateur Symposium, starts Sunday 21st July in the Reading Room. Closing date for essay submission Sunday 14th July, but even if you don't submit, join us for some interesting discussion on some different and personal ways of looking at Tolkien's work.




Salmacis81
Tol Eressea


Jul 20 2013, 11:20am

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There was a thread a few months ago... [In reply to] Can't Post

where someone was speculating that Radagast could be the Necromancer. I don't know if it was supposed to be a joke or not, but it sure was funny Laugh


Salmacis81
Tol Eressea


Jul 20 2013, 3:09pm

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I can just imagine... [In reply to] Can't Post

the Necromancer's big escape on a Rhosgobel rabbit-drawn chariot Sly


Earl
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jul 20 2013, 3:20pm

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Hmm... in that case I'm confused too :) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Werde Spinner
Rohan


Jul 20 2013, 5:17pm

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Now I want to see this happen! So much! Laugh Seriously, I am laughing so hard...

I don't take the Radagast=Necromancer theory very seriously (I believe the hedgehog was 'only mostly dead', not actually dead, for one), but it sure is good for a laugh or two. Thanks for the mental image!

(I can just see this happening in the movie and my family going, "What in the world...?!" while I have to escorted out for disturbing everyone by laughing so hard...)

"I had forgotten that. It is hard to be sure of anything among so many marvels. The world is all grown strange. Elf and Dwarf in company walk in our daily fields; and folk speak with the Lady of the Wood and yet live; and the Sword comes back to war that was broken in the long ages ere the fathers of our fathers rode into the Mark! How shall a man judge what to do in such times?"

"As he ever has judged. Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."


Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Jul 20 2013, 5:51pm

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It would be Hi Freaking Larious! A HAHAHAHHA. Good one.

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Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Jul 20 2013, 6:42pm

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Here's how it went down... [In reply to] Can't Post


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I always wondered why and how Sauron got away.



RADAGAST: We've got that mean-ol' Necromancer now! Whatcha waiting for Gladdy? Shoot him now! Shoot him now!

SAURON: You keep out of this! She doesn't have to shoot you now.

RADAGAST: Yes, she does have to shoot me now! (To GALADRIEL) Shoot me now!

GALADRIEL (fires): Ka-pow!

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring

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