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Vocalist for The Hobbit's two movies.

Woodyend
Gondor


Dec 28 2007, 3:04pm

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Vocalist for The Hobbit's two movies. Can't Post

My two picks would be.....

Lisa Gerrard she received a Golden Globe award and an Academy Award nomination for Gladiator.

Loreena McKennitt who's music and songs have been in numerous movies.

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N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Dec 28 2007, 5:43pm

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Glenn Yarbrough still performs. [In reply to] Can't Post

Though he took ill in November.

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N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Dec 28 2007, 5:44pm

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Must there be a vocalist? [In reply to] Can't Post

What if the composer (Shore or other) decides to go all instrumental? Apart from the songs sung by the characters, of course.

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Woodyend
Gondor


Dec 28 2007, 5:49pm

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That would work for me too. [In reply to] Can't Post

But what about the Academy Award nomination for best song?

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N.E. Brigand
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Dec 28 2007, 5:54pm

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Unnecessary. [In reply to] Can't Post

I would prefer the filmmakers focus on making the best possible cinematic adaptation of The Hobbit, and not worry about qualifying for every possible award.

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entmaiden
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Dec 28 2007, 5:57pm

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I agree 100% [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't want a song tacked on. Except for Into the West, I didn't think the songs of LOTR had much to do with the story.

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Woodyend
Gondor


Dec 28 2007, 6:21pm

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Well the songs are tracked over the credits. So I don't see what the big deal is. [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Sunflower
Valinor

Dec 28 2007, 6:34pm

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Have you read.... [In reply to] Can't Post

...the translations of Philippa Boyens's lyrics? I beg to differ that "The songs have nothing to do with the story"Smile I'm hoping she can collaborate with Shore again.

That said, the need for "operatic/female voices" won't be as great this time around--not for the first film anyway. They were used mostly for the Arwen scenes, and scenes of high drama and grandeur, such as the Sammath Naur. This is tale vastly reduced in scope, so an instrumental-only score (with some occasional choir work thrown in--OK, make that a lot of choir work--I love Shore's choral stuff) would be fine.
As to closing songs,I am afraid that is a curse we have been stuck with since Disney got its 2D animated groove back in 1989, with "The Little Mermaid." Now every "pop" film has to have a nifty closing credits number. I think Shore did a fine job with introducing the Gray Havens motif during Gandalf's conversation about death, and expanding it into "Into The West." Maybe he could have a theme for Throrin and do the same with The Hobbit. Or Bilbo ,for that matter.


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Compa_Mighty
Tol Eressea


Dec 28 2007, 6:47pm

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On Enya's genre... [In reply to] Can't Post

I have always thought the group ERA could do a fine job. Look for them, they have two great songs: Ameno and The Mass.

Of course that's for one of the two movies.

Anyway, it's likely they will surprise us with an unknown voice (at least to most of us) as they did with Gollum's Song, which I didn't like... but hey, anything can happen.

Let it be heard! We want Jackson for The Hobbit!

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Woodyend
Gondor


Dec 28 2007, 6:51pm

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But this begs to sung. [In reply to] Can't Post

  Far over the Misty Mountains cold,
To dungeons deep and caverns old,
We must away, ere break of day,
To seek our pale enchanted gold.

Granted with deep all male voices.

I guess I'm the only one here who likes to hear songs over the credits. I do stay and read them in the cinema and this helps.


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karen
The Shire

Dec 28 2007, 9:12pm

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I would really like to hear the woman who sang while Aragorn was floating in the river and then Brego comes up. She has the most beautiful voice, it sounded so elvish to me, they could use her again for Hobbit. I also think Annie Lennex should have something in there. Into The West always makes me cry.


fmaximus
Rivendell


Dec 28 2007, 11:32pm

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Enya [In reply to] Can't Post

has a great sound for fantasy. She would be my choice without a doubt.


Daeferedir
The Shire

Dec 29 2007, 4:54am

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That Would Be... [In reply to] Can't Post

Sheila Chandra. Try iTune...


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carrioncrow
Lorien

Dec 29 2007, 2:53pm

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Hobbit Film Music [In reply to] Can't Post

I know there is a tendency to not want to mess with what worked for the LOTR films...(Howard Shore and ethereal female voices)

But really The Hobbit doesn't have to be that.

At the top of my musical wish list for The Hobbit is for the film composer to actually write a piece of music that uses the group of instruments the dwarves use in the first chapter of the book (a harp, 2 viols, 2 fiddles, 2 clarinets, a drum and 3 flutes). I really realy really want the theme for Thorin's company to be introduced by the dwarves themselves with (at first) this particular orchestration. It would just be a great geeky thing to do, like having the prisoners enter whistling in Bridge on the River Kwai.

And for the record, I don't see where Oin or Gloin are assigned instruments during the Unexpected Party..so maybe they aren't musical..or are singers (Gimli's dad a croonerAngelic)...maybe Oin is a castrato and they can work in one of your vocalist after all Tongue.



Elven
Valinor


Dec 30 2007, 2:35am

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There's some great ... [In reply to] Can't Post

interviews with Sheila Chandra if you search: Sheila Chandra interviews

She really has quite an awesome presence with her voice ...


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The Hobbit!!
Its a Happening Thing!!

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Elven
Valinor


Dec 30 2007, 3:07am

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After some searching .. [In reply to] Can't Post

there is also www.sheilachandra. com you can visit ...
there was some great reviews about her, which makes me wish she was featured a little more on the soundtracks ...

" The sonic equivalent of a Salvador Dali painting ...." NEWS JOURNAL
  • "One of the most beautiful voices on earth" Billboard, 1996
  • "If you havenít heard her before, prepare to be amazed." The Times (London), 1999

  • "A woman working out on the boundaries of the possible." Q, 1992
  • "One of the most compelling, powerful and underrated voices of our time." Uncut, 1999



  • Elven


    The Shire was never the same after
    Barbra Cartland moved into Bagshot Row.


    Tolkien was a Capricorn!
    The Hobbit!!
    Its a Happening Thing!!

    Russell Crowe for Beorn



    Finding Frodo
    Tol Eressea


    Dec 30 2007, 4:43am

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    Great idea! [In reply to] Can't Post

    It's kind of flute-heavy, but could probably be made to work. Unless all those flute jokes are true. (Q: What's the definition of a minor second? A: Two flutes playing in unison. Q: How do you get two flautists to play in unison? A: Shoot one of them.)

    I love the wonderful geekiness of using that orchestration though. I was just starting my Hobbit re-read and thinking about how those instruments would sound together and what tune works well for "Over the Misty Mountains Cold". Unfortunately, "Over the River and Through the Woods" fits rather well!

    Where's Frodo?


    N.E. Brigand
    Half-elven


    Dec 30 2007, 4:46am

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    The Rankin-Bass version of... [In reply to] Can't Post

    "Far over the Misty Mountains cold" has a nice melody. I'm sure something else in non-carol fashion could be devised.

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    Tol Eressea


    Dec 30 2007, 4:50am

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    Oh, definitely [In reply to] Can't Post

    It should be something dark and deep and mysterious. I just made a bad connection with the words and couldn't get it out of my head.Crazy

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    ElanorTX
    Grey Havens


    Dec 31 2007, 1:47am

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    songs during credits [In reply to] Can't Post

    Whether there's music or not, I always stay for all the credits, and so I too enjoy the music if it's relevant, not just showhorned in to make the CD longer.

    In "Once" the title track is not heard until the credits.

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