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gone fishin'

Tol Eressea

Jul 4 2013, 6:30pm

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gone fishin' [In reply to] Can't Post

1. Later in the sequence it becomes apparent that this is Smeagol remembering the past. Do you think he is a reliable narrator? If not, what particulars do you think hes changed? Why?
I am pretty sure he's less a reliable narrator than say....Bilbo. Point 1: Size of fish--surely an exaggeration! Point 2: See how that ring went from dirty to shiny? Something was omitted there!

2. According to the commentaries Fran Walsh deliberately directed this scene with the actors behaving in a slightly childlike manner. Why do you suppose she would do that? BTW, do you see anything distinctive about Fran's directing style?
It's a bri-i-ight sunshiney day? Nope!

3. Do you think Smeagol and Deagol were as firm friends as Frodo and Sam? How does this scene foreshadow the coming rocky ROTK relationship between Frodo and Sam? Why does the friendship of Frodo and Sam not end as tragically as that of Smeagol and Deagol? Could it have?
Good times: S&D=fishing; F&S=birthday party (w/cake) Obviously, the sharing of cake makes for more lasting friendships. (On the other hand, the scene *after* this reminds me alot of Frodo and Gollum's fight scenes while in Mordor)

4. Why a boat?
Just a reminder: these are River-folk.

Subject User Time
SCOD - I'm On A Boat! Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Jul 1 2013, 1:24pm
    Two hobbits in a boat FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Jul 1 2013, 10:00pm
    gone fishin' batik Send a private message to batik Jul 4 2013, 6:30pm
    SCOD-I'm on a boat willowing Send a private message to willowing Jul 5 2013, 10:13pm
    Smeagol / Deagol Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jul 6 2013, 1:51pm
        Freinds Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Jul 7 2013, 3:57am
    On a boat! Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jul 8 2013, 10:58pm


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