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Will Saruman will be a deciding factor in the assault on Dol Guldur?

Salmacis81
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Jul 4 2013, 1:12am


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Going by Gandalf's comments in the Council of Elrond chapter, it was "the devices of Saruman" that ultimately allowed the White Council to prevail in driving the Necromancer from his fortress. (Although there is also information that states that Sauron had long made plans to flee before the Council even attacked, so possible inconsistencies aside...)

Being that the Dol Guldur side-plot seems to be building up to a sort of "coming-of-age" moment for Gandalf, and rumors abound of Galadriel supposedly being primed for an awesome display of power, do you think they will give Saruman and his "devices" a central role in the assault, or will they allow the more sympathetic members of the Council to show their stuff?

It's my opinion that Saruman's role will likely be greatly diminished, due to the fact that he is so well-known as a traitorous villain and is a pretty unsympathetic character to audiences. I think Jackson is going to use the opportunity to make Gandalf the major hero (since it IS his character arc, and he's a beloved character), and possibly Galadriel (if the rumors are anything to go by). I've got a feeling that Saruman's role will be to stall the Council until the last minute, and then have Gandalf, Radagast, Galadriel, and Elrond basically veto him and attack the fortress, and Saruman either grudgingly agrees to it, or sits out the battle entirely.

Thoughts?


(This post was edited by Salmacis81 on Jul 4 2013, 1:15am)

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Will Saruman will be a deciding factor in the assault on Dol Guldur? Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jul 4 2013, 1:12am
    I remember reading bungobaggins Jul 4 2013, 1:46am
    Found the post I was talking about. bungobaggins Jul 4 2013, 2:06am
        Hmm MorgolKing Send a private message to MorgolKing Jul 4 2013, 2:57am
            Well I can't quote it... bungobaggins Jul 4 2013, 3:18am
        Awesome MorgolKing Send a private message to MorgolKing Jul 4 2013, 7:01pm
            Yeah, just watched it... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jul 4 2013, 7:15pm
    Has there been any word of Christopher Lee filming more scenes? stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Jul 4 2013, 2:43am
        "Moving around" is surely done by doubles. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Jul 4 2013, 4:47am
            FOTR Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Jul 4 2013, 5:04am
                I hope not. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Jul 4 2013, 8:26am
                    It would also make Gandalf look pretty stupid elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Jul 4 2013, 8:51am
                    good chance it's in there Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Jul 4 2013, 8:58am
                        Let's hope so... sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Jul 4 2013, 9:14am
                            It already showed Sarumans reluctance to act in AUJ Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Jul 4 2013, 9:32am
                                But as far as Saruman's role in the battle is concerned... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jul 4 2013, 4:11pm
                                    The Reality JWPlatt Jul 4 2013, 5:34pm
                                        Remember! painjoiker Send a private message to painjoiker Jul 4 2013, 5:43pm
                                            Remember JWPlatt Jul 4 2013, 6:32pm
                                                Why might that be? Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jul 4 2013, 6:44pm
                                                    How Far JWPlatt Jul 4 2013, 6:55pm
                                                        I just don't see it as such a far stretch... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jul 4 2013, 7:09pm
                                            I Agree! KingTurgon Send a private message to KingTurgon Jul 14 2013, 12:38am
                                        There's plenty of point to my wondering... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jul 4 2013, 6:40pm
                        Err...not exactly! Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Jul 4 2013, 1:17pm
                        Saruman desired the attack on Dol Guldur once he discovered Sauron was searching The Anduin AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jul 5 2013, 2:00am
    Saruman, Galadriel JWPlatt Jul 4 2013, 5:27am
        I'll have to disagree Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jul 4 2013, 12:50pm
        Ugh, Count Dooku. Ugh. stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Jul 4 2013, 2:42pm
            Really? KingTurgon Send a private message to KingTurgon Jul 14 2013, 12:33am
                Ad Absurdum JWPlatt Jul 14 2013, 6:11am
                The cool thing to do? stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Jul 14 2013, 11:29pm
    Saruman will be in TABA Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Jul 4 2013, 9:40am
        There is no WC meeting in the book following the BoFA Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 4 2013, 1:41pm
    I had hoped that Saruman would get a "hero" moment at Dol Guldur, thus making his turn in FotR Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Jul 4 2013, 11:07pm

 
 
 

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