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Will Gandalf die? [spoilers]

QuackingTroll
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Jul 1 2013, 8:28pm


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I was thinking about the moment where Galadriel apparently carries a weak Gandalf from Dol Guldur and was playing with the idea that he could die. My initial thought was that perhaps Galadriel possesses the power to bring him back but then I thought back to Radagast and Sebastian...

In this scene Sebastian the hedgehog apparently dies. Radagast is clearly very upset by this and removes the crystal from his staff and holds it up to the hedgehog's mouth. It then fills with blackness and the hedgehog lives. Could this crystal possess the power to bring back the dead? Perhaps Radagast brings Gandalf back, or maybe Galadriel uses this crystal? Speculating further, perhaps the overwhelming power necessary to bring Gandalf back causes the crystal to explode, breaking Radagast's staff into the shape that we see it in FotR, with the crystal exploded and gone they no-longer have this power and they're unable to save Radagast (who we assume will die). Then I thought of the Necromancer...

The Necromancer apparently has the power to raise the dead, so it's not impossible that he holds some sort of tool or magic to resurrect Gandalf?

These are all highly speculative, of course, but is it possible for the Istari to possess the power to resurrect the dead? When we consider Tolkien's view of afterlife in Middle-earth is it even remotely feasible? Surely Illuvatar wouldn't allow it.

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Will Gandalf die? [spoilers] QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Jul 1 2013, 8:28pm
    Yes, Gandalf will die ... in FotR VoronwŰ_the_Faithful Send a private message to VoronwŰ_the_Faithful Jul 1 2013, 8:42pm
        But don't worry - geordie Send a private message to geordie Jul 1 2013, 9:11pm
            Wow, that's a shock! VoronwŰ_the_Faithful Send a private message to VoronwŰ_the_Faithful Jul 1 2013, 9:13pm
        Like! Kangi Ska Send a private message to Kangi Ska Jul 2 2013, 9:17pm
    No Greypilgrim Send a private message to Greypilgrim Jul 1 2013, 9:30pm
    No, I'm sure he won't dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jul 1 2013, 10:16pm
        Nice post dormouse! burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Jul 3 2013, 3:04pm
    Of Course he will malickfan Send a private message to malickfan Jul 1 2013, 10:57pm
    Never gonna happen flameofudun Send a private message to flameofudun Jul 2 2013, 12:48am
    nope kbdiggity Send a private message to kbdiggity Jul 2 2013, 3:21am
        In case you missed the news story back in January: DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Jul 2 2013, 7:20am
            Well I guess Gandalf won't die then burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Jul 3 2013, 2:53am
    duh! of course he dies didn't you know?? MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jul 2 2013, 8:02am
    of course he will trqn13 Send a private message to trqn13 Jul 2 2013, 8:27am
    Not gonna happen Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jul 2 2013, 4:37pm
    I believe that both Il˙vatar and Tolkien burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Jul 3 2013, 2:55am
        Jackson plays by his own rules. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Jul 3 2013, 5:07am
            Again, I must agree with Elizabeth. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jul 3 2013, 6:20am
                You are correct burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Jul 3 2013, 3:00pm
                    Sebastian was only 'mostly' dead... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 3 2013, 6:00pm

 
 
 

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