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Silmarillion movie Part 2
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Poll: Silmarillion movie Part 2
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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thorinoakenshield
Rivendell


Jun 27 2013, 8:53pm

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Silmarillion movie Part 2 Can't Post

Sould Peter Jackson direct a Silmarillion movie?


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jun 27 2013, 9:02pm

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Absolutely not. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Magpie
Immortal


Jun 27 2013, 9:05pm

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could we get the option of simply "No"? [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't do the long version with all the exclamation points. :-)


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jun 27 2013, 9:10pm

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You must be [In reply to] Can't Post

vehemently against or jubilantly for. There is no middle ground Wink


malickfan
Gondor


Jun 27 2013, 11:24pm

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100% No and the book I hope the book will NEVER be adapted. Jackson himself would recoginse he is innaproriate...I hope [In reply to] Can't Post

The Book is unfilmable, Tolkien' life work, and in complete contradiction to the angle PJ's films have taken, it would need so much restructuring and invention the film would ulimtely be a loosely inspired fan fiction. I do not want to see Tolkiens life work bastardised into something like that when there is no need or purpose beyond commerial factors, especially when we never got Tolkiens final version of the matter (Its not as if A film would benefit the book-beyond limitng new readers imaginations, and likely making them assume the narrative was as action packed and commerical structured as the film).

That said someone could come in and perhaps make a great film, but I would really rather not see it happen (not for a few decades at least, and not without the direct assistance of the Tolkien Estate). And I don't want to see Phillpa 'Hasn't read it in 25 years' Boyens, and Peter 'Quite Possibly found it very boring even if he has' Jackson involved at all when it does happen.


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Jun 27 2013, 11:40pm

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If the occasion arises... [In reply to] Can't Post

...let someone else have a chance.


malickfan
Gondor


Jun 27 2013, 11:51pm

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As I said its unfilmable (IMO) so i'd want someone totally at odds with Jackson [In reply to] Can't Post

If your going to make a mess of things why not do it in style?

Hayao Myzaki, Darren Aronofsky and Terrence Malick could do interesting things with the material


Elizabeth
Valinor


Jun 28 2013, 12:11am

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Assuming it's being done as a series... [In reply to] Can't Post

...as in my post in the other thread, I like the "realistic" treatment Jackson has applied (at least, in LotR), but don't think the Jackson team is appropriate to do the scripts. Wrong mindset.


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jun 28 2013, 12:16am

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Darren Aronofsky [In reply to] Can't Post

I've heard good things about his work. From what I've heard, I think he'd be a good match for a Turin film.


malickfan
Gondor


Jun 28 2013, 12:35am

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Watch his film The Fountain, and the upcoming Noah-I think he'd nail the creation myth aspects at least [In reply to] Can't Post

   

I've just been browsing the forum archives and 'Silmarilion film' seems to come up alot (I apparently started a few polls on this myself...) there seem to be about 150 different threads on this subject! few are below:

http://newboards.theonering.net/...lion%20Movie;#327883

http://newboards.theonering.net/...lion%20Movie;#480017

http://newboards.theonering.net/...illion%20Film;#45601

http://newboards.theonering.net/...llion%20Film;#610495


http://newboards.theonering.net/...llion%20Film;#589624

http://newboards.theonering.net/...lion%20Movie;#433733

http://newboards.theonering.net/...lion%20Movie;#506813


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jun 28 2013, 12:41am

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Noah [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm really looking forward to this movie. I think it has the potential to be fantastic.

Yeah, the Silmarillion movie topic comes up a lot! It's just too fascinating a subject to not talk about Smile


Magpie
Immortal


Jun 28 2013, 12:42am

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meh... [In reply to] Can't Post

;-p


malickfan
Gondor


Jun 28 2013, 12:45am

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What fascinates me is I get both terribly excited and very very worried whenever I hear reports or rumours about A Silmarillion film [In reply to] Can't Post

So from my perpesctive its just easier if it dosen't happen Wink.

I'm still waiting for a Beren and Luthien full narrative text before we see an adaptation...


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jun 28 2013, 12:52am

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That will never happen [In reply to] Can't Post

B & L, that is. At least, it'll never be canon, IMO. Some author might decide he/she is going to write it, but a Tolkien-based full length narrative is doomed to fancy, I imagine.

I don't get worried about Silmarillion movie rumors simply because the Tolkien Estate has made it clear that the rights aren't going up for sale any time in the near future, and I'm sure after how The Hobbit has turned out, that's not likely to change. Wink


Ardamírë
Valinor


Jun 28 2013, 12:52am

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Your ambivalence is astounding ;-) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


malickfan
Gondor


Jun 28 2013, 12:55am

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Hmm... [In reply to] Can't Post


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I'm sure after how The Hobbit has turned out, that's not likely to change.


You may have a point there...it did change a couple of things I supposeTongue



Maciliel
Tol Eressea


Jun 28 2013, 3:17am

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yes, yes, yes!!!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

 
spj.

yes.


cheers --

.


Brethil
Half-elven


Jun 28 2013, 4:24pm

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Wrapping myself and Telpemairo in tin foil... [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
spj.

yes.




I know there is great fear about it - but I would be interested in seeing it done - as Elizabeth points out not as a film per se but a series would fit the style better. (I confess Maciliel and I have indulged in *some* casting speculations...)

For me it can only be a win scenario - if I hated it, I simply wouldn't watch it...it cannot ever change my love or perception of the source material in any way. And if it was enjoyable - voila! More muffins are better than less muffins.


arithmancer
Grey Havens


Jun 28 2013, 10:18pm

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Need more options// [In reply to] Can't Post

If Peter Jackson wants to direct Silmarilion adaptations, I want to see 'em. I sort of doubt he does though. Wink


Maciliel
Tol Eressea


Jun 29 2013, 6:20pm

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this is wonderfully stated [In reply to] Can't Post

 
brethil tengwadil...

if spj does it and we like it, all good. if we don't, we can ignore, and someone else can take a shot later.

i do empathize with the notion that when something's been optioned and produced and distributed, it probably would be a long while before it appeared in another format.

for example, 'tho i admire a lot of the redford/farrow great gatsby, i was hoping there'd be more versions. well, i got my wish for productions, but neither (the toby stephens/mia sorvino or the baz luhrman versions) are to my taste. the sorvino version had the added handicap that some of the dresses looked like they were from the '30s than the '20s. and i don't care for luhrman's work at all, so the current version is a non-starter for me.

so, it probably be many, many years before someone tackles gatsby on the big screen again. it's more uncommon that we get a dangerous liasons (pfeiffer/close/malkovich) and a les liaisons dangeroux (firth/benning/tilly) at the same time.


so i could see that being bothersome to someone who wasn't amenable to spj doing the silmarillion, but, all else being equal, one doesn't have to watch or even remember that it exists.

i've largely forgotten the bashki version, which, i don't remember as being terrible, but looking at screen clips now, is very far afield from the version i prefer (spj's). but its existence does not take away one bit from jackson's films.


cheers --

.


CuriousG
Valinor


Jun 30 2013, 4:08pm

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You're asking for muffins again? When does it ever stop? ;) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Brethil
Half-elven


Jun 30 2013, 4:44pm

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Great Gatsby and remakes [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks you Telpemairo fir the compliment...

I agree with you very much, sometimes a decade or so, with changes in styling, affect the quality and the 'repeatability' of a major work. (Dual 'Liasons' was unique: I love the Firth-Bennig-Tilly one BTW). In the sense of Gatsby you are in the position of being a connoisseur of vintage, so your knowledge of the age affects your perception - a difficult position for you, when you want to have it be 'right' in terms of the age (as it should be if it's filmed period.)

Baz Luhrman coined a new word for my inner dictionary: luhrid. Wink 'Nuff said.

Personally I have to say I've simply never been a fan of the Bakshi version of LOTR; nor of the animated Hobbits. I consider myself a fan of animation, they simply never grabbed me...of course there was such a long time when that's all there was! So although I went into FOTR as a *HUGE* skeptic, (probably because of what we had already) I have been in a Middle Earth cloud of happiness ever since.


Brethil
Half-elven


Jun 30 2013, 4:45pm

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Where there's life there's hope, and need of muffins. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Maciliel
Tol Eressea


Jun 30 2013, 5:00pm

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"of brethil and the king under the mountain" [In reply to] Can't Post

 
coming to a great wood of dense shadow, the dwarf and his companion pulled up their ponies and dismounted. they feared foul things lurked in the forest, and would not venture through it at night, 'tho the stars were bright and hung above them like a field of silver flowers.

it had rained well the night before, and wood and twig, leaf and tinder, were all thoroughly wet. not a bit of dwarven woodcraft could breathe life into a campfire, and brethil, 'tho skilled, fared no better.

resigned to spending a night where the stars would grant the only light, thorin and brethil made light supper of muffins that she herself had made. a light, crumbly sort, studded with a sweet, small berry. the two ate in silence, and thought their thoughts.



cheers : )

.


Brethil
Half-elven


Jun 30 2013, 5:46pm

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If muffins be the food of love, eat on! [In reply to] Can't Post

A wonderful excerpt dear friend!!!! AngelicHeart Thank you!

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