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Tom Cruise still involved in The Hobbit?
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Darkstone
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Dec 27 2007, 5:32pm

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As everyone knows United Artists owns the domestic distribution rights for The Hobbit. MGM owns UA, and recently resurrected the moribund studio to produce “prestige” films, such as The Hobbit. MGM also hired Tom Cruise to run it.

As head of United Artists Tom Cruise would have some hand in producing, perhaps directing, and maybe even starring in The Hobbit.

However, the first UA project, "Lions for Lambs" starring Cruise, Robert Redford and Meryl Streep, bombed terribly at the box office. Another UA project starring Cruise, “Valkyrie”, directed by Bryan Singer (“X-Men”, “X2”, “Superman Returns”) is reportedly vastly over-budget ($90 million and rising). And yet another prestige UA project, Oliver Stone’s “Pinkville”, a film starring Bruce Willis about the investigation into the My Lai Massacre during the Vietnam War, has been delayed in production.

United Artists doesn't seem to be doing too well!

So perhaps it’s not too much of a surprise that Cruise’s next project will not be for UA, but for Columbia Pictures, Peter Berg’s “Edwin A. Salt”. Is Cruise jumping the UA ship?

Still, I note Columbia Pictures is owned by Sony, and Sony owns a part of MGM, which owns UA, which owns the domestic distribution rights for The Hobbit.

So there’s still a possibility for Tom Cruise as Bilbo, and possibly even as director.

Only time will tell!

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Patty
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Dec 27 2007, 5:51pm

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Darkstone, you are a horrible rumor -monger... [In reply to] Can't Post

that is the worst rumor you could have started. I love it!Cool

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Darkstone
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Dec 27 2007, 5:59pm

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Moi? [In reply to] Can't Post

Did I say anything that wasn't true?

It'll be interesting if MTV picks this up.

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The audacious proposal stirred his heart. And the stirring became a song, and it mingled with the songs of Gil-galad and Celebrian, and with those of Feanor and Fingon. The song-weaving created a larger song, and then another, until suddenly it was as if a long forgotten memory woke and for one breathtaking moment the Music of the Ainur revealed itself in all glory. He opened his lips to sing and share this song. Then he realized that the others would not understand. Not even Mithrandir given his current state of mind. So he smiled and simply said "A diversion.”



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Patty
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Dec 27 2007, 6:04pm

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Oh Darkstone, stop! [In reply to] Can't Post

it's good to have you back.

I think I would just hurl if Tom Cruise were to be in any way connected with these movies. I might even consider not seeing them if he were to act in them.

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Darkstone
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Dec 27 2007, 6:09pm

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Well [In reply to] Can't Post

it's good to have you back

Thank you kindly. Nice to be back.


I think I would just hurl if Tom Cruise were to be in any way connected with these movies.

As head of United Artists, he is.Wink

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The audacious proposal stirred his heart. And the stirring became a song, and it mingled with the songs of Gil-galad and Celebrian, and with those of Feanor and Fingon. The song-weaving created a larger song, and then another, until suddenly it was as if a long forgotten memory woke and for one breathtaking moment the Music of the Ainur revealed itself in all glory. He opened his lips to sing and share this song. Then he realized that the others would not understand. Not even Mithrandir given his current state of mind. So he smiled and simply said "A diversion.”



Arwen's daughter
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Dec 27 2007, 6:10pm

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I think this is a great idea! [In reply to] Can't Post

After all, people are drawn to Tom Cruise movies. And after LOTR, they might need a push to come back to Middle Earth. They've seen the end of the story, why come back and pay $9 for the beginning of it (or $18)? The Hobbit: starring Tom Cruise is sure to attract people of all ages alongside the geek crowd. Look what he did for Last Samurai, Vanilla Sky, and Minority Report. Who really would have gone to see those if Cruise hadn't starred? I think we should petition to make darn sure he gets a role! Who's with me?



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Darkstone
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Dec 27 2007, 6:12pm

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He's got the stature to play Bilbo. / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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The audacious proposal stirred his heart. And the stirring became a song, and it mingled with the songs of Gil-galad and Celebrian, and with those of Feanor and Fingon. The song-weaving created a larger song, and then another, until suddenly it was as if a long forgotten memory woke and for one breathtaking moment the Music of the Ainur revealed itself in all glory. He opened his lips to sing and share this song. Then he realized that the others would not understand. Not even Mithrandir given his current state of mind. So he smiled and simply said "A diversion.”



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Dec 27 2007, 6:23pm

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priell3
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Dec 27 2007, 6:35pm

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it's good to have you back.

I think I would just hurl if Tom Cruise were to be in any way connected with these movies. I might even consider not seeing them if he were to act in them.



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Dec 27 2007, 6:52pm

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that you didn't injure your funny bone in that accident. You are a treasure, Darkstone! :-)

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Dec 27 2007, 7:08pm

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orcbane
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Dec 27 2007, 7:59pm

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You know I don't think I have actually seen a single movie with Tom Cruise in it. But he does seem to be a popular actor and is not too old maybe.

With the landmines outnumbering the refreshment stands maybe 8:1 in these film projects, perhaps he is the man to lead the effort to victory. I will admit I often read uncomplimentary things about him by Lotr Fans, more bad then good, maybe 8:0 against. But frankly it is nearly always of a vitrolic nature, and without any logical supporting statements.

For some reason whenever I hear Cruise mentioned it also reminds me of Tom Hanks. Not that they are similiar, but their time in films coincided. I have seen Tom Hanks films. He seems pretty good. Maybe he could be Bilbo ?


Sunflower
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Dec 27 2007, 8:39pm

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This is the best thing I've read since someone over on TORC threw us a "Quentin Tarantino directing" scenario and gave us examples of Samuel L Jackson dialogue with a ME twist.
(Example: What country you from?" "What?" 'What ain't no country I ever heard of. They speak Sindarin in What?" ..."Sindarin, Orc-breath, DO YOU SPEAK IT??" ."What does Saruman look like?" .."Does he look like a Hobbit?" "no." "Then why did you try to woo him like a Hobbit? Saruman don't like to be wooed by anyone, except Mrs Saruman." that whole scene.)

I applaud ANYONE with a sense of humor about this!"
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Ainu Laire
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Dec 27 2007, 9:03pm

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I liked Last Samurai... [In reply to] Can't Post

... but Martin Freeman for Bilbo!

(Don't put him as Bard either. Yuck).

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Lossefalme
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Dec 27 2007, 9:10pm

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Well, any connection to TomKat will have 'em lining up! [In reply to] Can't Post

I mean, who better? He certainly is the right height and he already has a reputation for being rather odd. I think it's perfect! Tongue

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Dec 27 2007, 9:13pm

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fmaximus
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Dec 27 2007, 11:23pm

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RosieLass
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Dec 28 2007, 1:48am

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Tom Cruise's involvement is the one thing that would guarantee that wild horses couldn't drag me to see The Hobbit, though. Gahh!

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To get out? Tongue

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SandWitch King
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Dec 28 2007, 2:54am

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The guy who was box office gold became box office poison not because of his acting but because of his tabloid life.

Mission Impossible III was a fine action film and he did a fine acting job. It was far superior to MI:1 and MI:2 and made less money than both. Why? I guess his public image is the primary reason.

He is a solid actor and it could be argued he is much better than that.

He is charming and disarming in "Top Gun," sympathetic and pathetic in "Vanilla Sky," scary and brutal in the very good "Collateral," solid to excellent in the flawed "The Last Samuri," and all the folks who hate him here must have not contributed to the box office mega-hits "Jerry Macguire," "A Few Good Men," "The Firm," or "Rain Man."

He was nominated for Oscar's best actor three times for "Magnolia," "Born On The Forth of July" and "Jerry Macguire" and has played in a geek movies such as, "Interview With a Vampire."

I don't want to cast him in the Hobbit (although TORn joked about it a lot at its DragonCon presentation in Atlanta) but I don't think he would be so terrible or ruin the film. There is a lot of evidence he can act.

Just because he dumped Kidman, kidnapped Katie Holmes and brainwashed her and hangs out with David Beckham, he is suddenly only in boring movies that nobody wants to see? I don't get it. Oh, and parts of "Minority Report" were golden!

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GreenHeart
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Dec 28 2007, 5:04am

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Same here. [In reply to] Can't Post

The very thought makes me feel ill.


GreenHeart
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Dec 28 2007, 5:20am

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I, for one, never did like him. [In reply to] Can't Post

I've never been able to put my finger on it, but he has just *always* bothered me. Like raw onions. I just don't like him, never did. The tabloid stuff just cemented it for me.


Compa_Mighty
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Dec 28 2007, 5:25am

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As everyone knows United Artists owns the domestic distribution rights for The Hobbit. MGM owns UA, and recently resurrected the moribund studio to produce “prestige” films, such as The Hobbit. MGM also hired Tom Cruise to run it.

As head of United Artists Tom Cruise would have some hand in producing, perhaps directing, and maybe even starring in The Hobbit.



In fact, according to the arrangement, New Line will distribute in the States and MGM worldwide. Besides, as far as I know, the rights aren't in UA's hands. They were once in thier hands, but those are the ones that Saentz now has, hence the ones held by New Line. MGM holds other parts of the rights, but are not, in any way linked to UA.

Besides the ones that hold all the power here are Jackson and Shaye. Perhaps mainly Jackson. According to what has been reported, he's got vetos in creative matters. I assure you he has nearly absolute control, considering he took $40M while he was suing for $100M

Tom Cruise won't come remotely close to The Hobbit, rest assured.

Let it be heard! We want Jackson for The Hobbit!

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BuckyUnderbelly
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Dec 28 2007, 7:34am

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Ah, the Byzantine maze of Hollywood shell companies! [In reply to] Can't Post

Heh, heh, heh! Yes this is delicious rumor-mongering, but I'm pleased to say it's no more than that!

I shall boldly step up onto the roof and proclaim into the cold morning air: Unless he's cast by PJ & Co. (perhaps in a rictus-grinning, couch-hopping Tom Bombadil cameo!), Tom Cruise will not have anything to do with The Hobbit.

Why do I say that? Well, he's just not in a position of power over the Hobbit movies. While Cruise holds a position of power within UA (along with long-time producing partner Paula Wagner), he does not hold a position of power within MGM. They're affiliated, but they're not the same company.

Here's how it breaks down: UA is considered a small niche unit within the larger MGM ... which in turn is considered a small niche unit within the even larger Sony Pictures. (I swear, these companies are like Russian nesting dolls!)

So in any case, The Hobbit will be produced by MGM (and NL) but not by UA. UA is another level down from MGM.

Cruise first came into the UA picture when he and producing partner Paula Wagner were dropped from their deal with Paramount (due largely to his declining box office numbers and couch-jumping antics) in 2006. So, they (along with several other investors) paid a whole pile of money in order to resurrect the then-defunct UA name. The resulting company is essentially a small production shingle, with a plan to produce three or four movies a year. Some starring Cruise, some not. (And yes, Lions for Lambs, their first effort under the resurrected UA banner, bombed horribly this year.)

If you'd like to see a really thorough (and often confusing) account of UA's long and often troubled history, check out this Wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Artists


But if you're wondering what Mr. Couch-Hopper might look like in The Hobbit ... may I direct your attention to this photo (by Annie Leibovitz, no less!). It's from the press kit for Ridley Scott's corny and baffling 1985 misfire, "Legend." (Though I must admit the character design of Tim Curry's Lord of Darkness is pretty freakin' awesome!) Anyhow ... check him out ...



My, my, my, Tom. That hemline is rather immodest, don't you think?


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hatster
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Dec 28 2007, 12:50pm

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Thank you SK [In reply to] Can't Post

I do get a bit tired of how the media tells us what we want and the masses follow.

He's not my favorite, but honestly, I find myself looking for his work just to thumb my nose at the folks I feel are trying to manipulate me.

I have lost the dwarves and I have lost the wizard, and I don't know where I am; and I don't want to know, if only I can get away.

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