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Okay, time to back down


Jun 27 2013, 11:25am

Post #1 of 12 (1202 views)
Okay, time to back down Can't Post

AUJ had plenty of changes. Sure, a lot of them didn't work, but I feel like most of the changes done to AUJ were of good intention. I knew I was watching The Hobbit. (You guys may disagree). Typically with adaptations, I don't care how much they deviate from the book as long as it works.
However, I'm pretty worried about the next two films. It seems like PJ is just changing things for the fun of it. Really? "Battle of nine armies?" Come on. Read his article in Empire magazine. These are not changes with good intent. It seems almost gratuitous. I never thought I'd be in this camp. But here, I agree with all you purists. Crazy

(This post was edited by GiantMushroomBear on Jun 27 2013, 11:26am)


Jun 27 2013, 11:29am

Post #2 of 12 (627 views)
He was joking [In reply to] Can't Post

Clearly his comments about the additional armies should be taken in jest. Orcs, Wargs, Men, Elves and Dwarves. With the exception of Eagles and Bats (not really deviating there, and they're more supplementary forces than armies), what else can he add?


Jun 27 2013, 11:37am

Post #3 of 12 (566 views)
I don't think you should be too worried about that [In reply to] Can't Post

I think he's merely joking at the possibility of it. If i remember right, he's said stuff like this before in a bit of a humouristic way, not in an actual "It'll be like this" way.

Let's see, we have (correct me if i'm wrong):
-The men of Laketown
-The elves of Mirkwood
-The dwarves
-Goblins and orcs
-Animals (Eagles, boars, bats, perhaps Beorn counts as this aswell)

I think what PJ's doing, is that he's counting all these different things as a seperate army (for example, goblins being a seperate army than orcs, eagles being a seperate army than bats, etc). So while he may make it sound like there's more than 5 armies, i think they will still call it the Battle of Five Armies regardless.


Jun 27 2013, 11:51am

Post #4 of 12 (526 views)
what else can he add? Zombies [In reply to] Can't Post

come to mind, or The Necromancers Nazgul. Mad

(This post was edited by Elenorflower on Jun 27 2013, 11:54am)

Tol Eressea

Jun 27 2013, 11:57am

Post #5 of 12 (529 views)
I'm getting the same feeling. [In reply to] Can't Post

Not that he could or would actually change it to the Battle of Nine Armies (clearly he's joking). But there's also his quote "This will probably get me struck off The One Ring party list but I am enjoying deviating from the book" It seems like he's being pretty flip about the whole thing, and not treating the original text, or Tolkien for that matter, with the reverence that he (they) had with LotR.

I'm cerainly no purist, and i was looking forward to them adding stuff from the appendices before AUJ came out. But it seems like they've gone a bit crazy with it, and are making changes for changes sake, for their own amusement.


Jun 27 2013, 11:57am

Post #6 of 12 (494 views)
I'm hoping for Aliens [In reply to] Can't Post

All from the Appendices, and in the spirit of Tolkien of course.


Jun 27 2013, 12:01pm

Post #7 of 12 (487 views)
PS [In reply to] Can't Post

Actually, forget the Appendices now they've been abandoned and following the children's story is "no longer appropriate", they're from the Deviations.

Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Tol Eressea

Jun 27 2013, 12:26pm

Post #8 of 12 (453 views)
goblins [In reply to] Can't Post

Goblins in armour to avoid sunlight and establish a similar look to the FOTR Moria ones, I hope not, but I dont know. Oh and Dol Guldur forces perhapsCrazy

The flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true!


Jun 27 2013, 12:45pm

Post #9 of 12 (421 views)
The 'Orc' Army [In reply to] Can't Post

Could foreseeably include any kinds of Orcs and Goblins. It's still one army if they're under the overall command of Azog or Bolg.


Jun 27 2013, 2:09pm

Post #10 of 12 (363 views)
Tauriel will lead the ninja army ! // [In reply to] Can't Post


The Mitch King

Jun 27 2013, 5:36pm

Post #11 of 12 (321 views)
Remember when... [In reply to] Can't Post

...Benedict Cumberpatch said the Necromancer was a character at the Battle of Five Armies??


Jun 27 2013, 6:33pm

Post #12 of 12 (278 views)
Yes, and now I wouldn't put it past PJ to do something like that.. [In reply to] Can't Post

I honestly have no idea what to expect now.

"You're love of the halflings leaf has clearly slowed your mind"


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