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Question about the trailer

jordagorn
The Shire

Jun 26 2013, 9:26pm

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At 1:20 in the trailer (when the words "Lies the greatest danger of all" flash on the screen) can anyone read the text on the map itself? I can't figure out what it says.


Silverlode
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Jun 26 2013, 11:23pm

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the section of the map just below the Lonely Mountain itself. On the left, you can see the words "Thrain" and "Mountain" which are part of the lines on the map which read "Here of old was Thrain King under the Mountain". And on the lower right you can see the markings on the map which symbolize blasted tree-trunks and the word "The", which is the first word of "The Desolation of Smaug".

Basically, all the map shots are cut from a single curving pass over a single section of the map. The first, at 0:33, shows the words "Here" and "King", the next at 1:00, shows the "The Desolation of Smaug", the third, at 1:20, shows the section of map just above that with the "Thrain and Mountain" end of the phrase.

Silverlode

"Dark is the water of Kheled-zâram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-nâla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dűm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."



jordagorn
The Shire

Jun 26 2013, 11:36pm

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According to the movie, can we even consider Thrain as king under the mountain? He never ruled his people as he went missing immediately following the death of his father. It seems odd to include that phrase now.


Silverlode
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Jun 26 2013, 11:46pm

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Thrain I, who was an ancestor of the Thrain we see in the AUJ prologue. Kingly dynasties do like to recycle names.

Thrain I founded Erebor when he was driven out of Moria and thus was the first King Under the Mountain. He had a son, Thorin I. However, our pair with those names, Thrain II and Thorin II (Oakenshield) are 6 generations later. The Thrain mentioned on the map is the ancestral Thrain, which is why it says he was king "of old".

Silverlode

"Dark is the water of Kheled-zâram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-nâla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dűm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."


 
 

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