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Show yourselves, investigators

Mrredbirdy
The Shire

Jun 21 2013, 2:49pm


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How the Dol Guldur plot will work out is still one big mystery for us.
We know however a litlle bit about three scenes:
1.The High Fells scene
2.Thrain vs Gandalf fight in Dol Guldur
3.Radagast and Gandalf walking into a trap

1. We have seen the High Fells scene in the trailer. It's about Gandalf discovering that the tombs of the nine are empty. During this scene Radagast shows up, saying: "Where am I?" Well where are the High Fells? Some say they are called the High Fells of Rhudaur and they lie west of the Misty Mountains, not so far away from Rivendell. If this is the case, it would be impossible for Gandalf to leave the company, travel to the High Fells, and get back. Beside that, the Misty Mountains will be swarming with orks (Goblin King's death) and impossible to travel across. Maybe this scene will be a flashback? (Gandalf telling the company what he has been doing when they left Rivendell, or Gandalf telling his worries to Beorn?) The bonus track of AUJ: "The Edge of the Wild" seems to fit the scene, so maybe the High Fells where originally meant for AUJ and then it was moved to DOS. Bring your ideas...

2. We all know, Gandalf gets the key and the map from Thrain in Dol Guldur and after that Thrain dies. The question here is, will this be a flashback or not? A flashback seems the only reasonable choise, but some say that Gandalf is wearing Glamdring in the scene. Investigate yourself:
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/06/19/74024-frame-by-frame-analysis-of-the-hobbit-the-desolation-of-smaug-trailer-2/11/#jp-carousel-73482
Glamdring: http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Glamdring
I think the sword is too little to be Glamdring and the handle is too short, but I'm not sure.

3. Don't know anything about this scene. You see Radagast and Gandalf at Dol Guldur. Radagast says:" What if it is a trap?" And Gandalf answers: "It's undoubtedly a trap" and then he pulls out Glamdring.

Investigate yourselves and bring forth your ideas...

Subject User Time
Show yourselves, investigators Mrredbirdy Send a private message to Mrredbirdy Jun 21 2013, 2:49pm
    glamdring LordGawain Send a private message to LordGawain Jun 21 2013, 3:06pm
        Yes, yes! bungobaggins Jun 21 2013, 3:41pm
            Agreed Frodo Lives Send a private message to Frodo Lives Jun 21 2013, 5:03pm
    Moria, Dol Guldur.. grinman Send a private message to grinman Jun 21 2013, 5:21pm
        now LordGawain Send a private message to LordGawain Jun 21 2013, 6:57pm
        High Fells will be in DoS according to the trailer The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King Jun 22 2013, 1:00am
        Do you have the first Hobbit Chronicles book? Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Jun 22 2013, 4:16am
            I have both The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King Jun 22 2013, 6:00am
                Thanks! Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Jun 22 2013, 3:44pm
                    Nothing The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King Jun 22 2013, 6:58pm
                        Darn! Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Jun 22 2013, 7:59pm
                        No - but... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Jun 22 2013, 8:22pm
                            Wonder if it's a typo. dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Jun 22 2013, 9:03pm
                                Ah, right...that would make more sense - must be a misquote! // Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Jun 22 2013, 9:34pm
                                Almost one hundred years... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jun 22 2013, 10:34pm
                                    Actually, it was "the twenty-first of April, dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Jun 23 2013, 1:40am
                                        Aw, heck. You're right... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jun 23 2013, 2:05am
                        "That my dear Balin is not entirely true. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jun 23 2013, 6:40am
                            How much time elapsed ??? Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Jun 23 2013, 6:48am
                                I don't think it's been stated... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Jun 23 2013, 11:20am
                                    Book timeline: dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Jun 23 2013, 12:58pm
                                        So Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Jun 24 2013, 3:01am
                                            Interesting! dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Jun 24 2013, 10:23am
                                                Perhaps you could be more specific? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jun 24 2013, 6:37pm
                                                    The problem is dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Jun 24 2013, 8:54pm
                                                        Ok Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Jun 25 2013, 1:15pm
        The Moria idea is all well and good... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Jun 22 2013, 2:21pm
    Prediction for Gandalf/Thrain fight Gorbag Send a private message to Gorbag Jun 21 2013, 8:45pm
        I think you are spot on. Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Jun 22 2013, 1:35am
    I would very much hope to see, since the Nazgul are in Dol Guldur by the movie account AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jun 22 2013, 5:53am
        Gandalf injured/captured The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King Jun 22 2013, 6:05am
            If Bolg snatches his staff I am leaving the theater and turning my back on the series. I AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jun 23 2013, 6:32am

 
 
 

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