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When recommending Tolkien's works to a friend, which book would you recommend be read first?

Ringil Ice
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Jun 19 2013, 7:52pm

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When recommending Tolkien's works to a friend, which book would you recommend be read first? Can't Post

I've had this debate with myself many a time. The Hobbit, first written? LOTR, the best known? The Silmarillion, the beginning of it all?


Silverlode
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Jun 19 2013, 8:06pm

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Depends on the friend, I think. [In reply to] Can't Post

Are they are slow reader, or do they prefer simple things and like to get straight to the action?
The Hobbit.

Do they love long, detailed books and getting immersed in another place while reading, but would be put off by a children's book?
The Lord of the Rings

Do they read everything they can get their hands on?
Tell them to start with The Hobbit and carry on immediately through LOTR...and then on to the Sil and HOME and....Wink

Do they really love mythology or philosophy and read history for fun?
Possibly The Silmarillion, though I think it would be a rare person who should actually start with this. It's such an unconventional book that I think it holds more interest for those who have already encountered Middle-earth. Most people would bog down and lose interest if they read it first.

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Brethil
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Jun 19 2013, 8:41pm

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Welcome Ringil Ice! [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree with Silverlode on all points - for most people I think LOTR might be the best place to start overall, though TH is not a bad place either. I tried to get my husband into ME by reading TH - sadly the journey stopped there!

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Lusitano
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Jun 19 2013, 8:56pm

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Neither, spare your friend all those boring books [In reply to] Can't Post

Farmer Giles of Ham: And Other Stories is the way to start on Tolkien.

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entmaiden
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Jun 19 2013, 9:08pm

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Here's a couple links [In reply to] Can't Post

We get this question occasionally, and several people have provided suggestions. Of course, you know your friend the best, so the answer may vary depending on their particular likes and dislikes.

This is from our old Green Books site: Turgon's suggestions

David Bratman suggests this order

Here's another suggestion

I read The Hobbit first, and it's still my favorite. I would not recommend The Sil first since it's not really a finished work but rather a collection of stories that were intended to eventually form a narrative.

Probably either The Hobbit or LOTR first, depending on what you think your friend would like. The Hobbit is more child-like, so some people might think it's too simplistic. But I think it's the most approachable for anyone who doesn't know Tolkien.

Another option is to see if your friend likes the movies. Now that the first Hobbit movie has been released, it's possible to try both AUJ and FOTR and see which captures his or her interest.


Otaku-sempai
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Jun 20 2013, 3:43am

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Dpentds on the age and mental maturity of the friend... [In reply to] Can't Post

Probably not The Silmarillion, though. That is for someone who has already read The Lord of the Rings and wants to delve deeper into the history of Middle-earth.

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Elizabeth
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Jun 20 2013, 8:15am

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Depends on the friend's age. [In reply to] Can't Post

The Hobbit would be a real turnoff to most adults who haven't been exposed to Tolkien, but of course it's great for kids. LotR is the best starting point for most adults, because it's a well-formed story told in a mature style. If they fall in love with it, they will have the motivation to read TH.

The Sil is so abstract, complex, and mythic that it will not appeal to a lot of readers, even those who love LotR. The true test is whether the reader dove into LotR appendices (at least A and B) with relish and delight -- if so, the Sil should work fine!








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sevilodorf
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Jun 20 2013, 2:57pm

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Depends upon the friend's preferences and Tolkien background knowledge [In reply to] Can't Post

The Hobbit is written in that avuncular tone that just irritates some people (I shudder at those instances it shows up in CSLewis' work as well) and has a decidedly "childish" tone.

LOTR though has a lot of poetry that movie firsters are not expecting, but it is the best intro to Middle Earth.

The Silmarillion is not a book I would recommend for an intro to Middle Earth. There are parts that are wonderfully cohesive, but it's too "scholarly" for the average reader.

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CuriousG
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Jun 20 2013, 5:13pm

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Welcome, Ringil. I agree with everything Silverlode said. [In reply to] Can't Post

Just curious: which books have you read, and in what order? For me it was traditional: Hobbit > LOTR > Silmarillion, etc.


Escapist
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Jun 20 2013, 5:36pm

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This is how I made the decision [In reply to] Can't Post

to go with "Children of Hurin", a story with a slightly darker edge to it, for a friend.

There is everything from light-hearted poetry, the philosophical musings on faerie-stories, and the darker and more dramatic to choose from.


Ringil Ice
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Jun 20 2013, 5:52pm

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Hey Curious G, I also agree with Silverlode. [In reply to] Can't Post

All of these considerations sound like wise ideas. Part of the reason I asked the question is because I first read LOTR proper when I was 9 and don't remember that much from the first reading because I have read them many times since. I've also read the Sil, TH, Unfinished Tales, and the first 4 books in the History of Middle Earth in that order. And a few Tolkien biographies.


Ringil Ice
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Jun 20 2013, 5:58pm

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I like this idea a lot. [In reply to] Can't Post

Children of Hurin feels more down to the root of Tolkien to me, because it is part of the history of the world he loved while also being a story that he seemed to have wrote with similarities to those he read and revised as a scholar of Anglo-Saxon literature. Cool idea. Also Beleg Cuthalion was awesome.


T_Meyers
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Jun 25 2013, 10:03pm

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I would say... [In reply to] Can't Post

...The Hobbit first since its the easiest to get into in terms of story and grammatical structure. But I always follow up with the fact that The Children of Hurin is my favorite of Tolkien's works.

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grammaboodawg
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Jun 26 2013, 2:08am

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The Hobbit :) [In reply to] Can't Post

I think it's a great one to introduce people to Middle-earth, Hobbits, Dwarves, Elves... and everything inbetween ;)



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