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History repeating itself

kbdiggity
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Jun 16 2013, 7:02pm


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I've been frequenting ToRN for more than a decade, as it was the best place I could find to learn about some little film being shot in New Zealand based on some books I had read. So I was around a decade ago to read through the various messageboard threads when the movies were released. It struck me as particularly ironic to read a post today lamenting Peter Jackson's work on the Hobbit movies and how they have given people a better appreciation for how great the LoTR films are.

The reason it is so ironic is because I remember how upset the ToRN boards got at the flaws they found upon first viewing the three LoTR movies... but apparently the people upset at AUJ and the DoS trailer do not remember.

"I hate how they portrayed Frodo"

"What is this Arwen warrior princess crap"

'Too much Legolas shield surfing"

"Denethor is terrible"

"They wasted Faramir's character"

"They destroyed Gimli by making him comic relief"

"The Paths of the Dead look like scrubbing bubbles ghosts"

"Why are there elves at Helm's Deep?!"

"Why are Elrond and Galadriel mind-chatting from a great distance?"

"Check out the bad CGI in this scene with Legolas or that battle scene"

"I can't believe they just left Saruman in his tower"

"The Hobbit stand-ins are way too noticeable in this scene and that scene"

blah, blah, blah... and on it went. As each of the films were released the hardcore fans that frequented ToRN commiserated and blasted the things in those movies that upset them. Now history is simply repeating itself on the ToRN boards. Perhaps there are a bunch of newer posters who simply weren't here for the first go around. But as someone who was, I can't help but marvel at the similarities separated by a decade.

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History repeating itself kbdiggity Send a private message to kbdiggity Jun 16 2013, 7:02pm
    Heck, I love everything I'm seeing with these films! Oin's parasite Send a private message to Oin's parasite Jun 16 2013, 7:12pm
    The more things change the more they stay the same. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Jun 16 2013, 7:14pm
    I've been.... Jim Send a private message to Jim Jun 16 2013, 7:19pm
    People complaining about people complaining is worse than the actual "complaining" AKA, differing and equally valid opinions. // Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Jun 16 2013, 7:19pm
        And yes, I'm aware that's a complaint. // Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Jun 16 2013, 8:07pm
    Speaking as a new person bungobaggins Send a private message to bungobaggins Jun 16 2013, 7:21pm
    No, I do not agree. Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Jun 16 2013, 7:22pm
        FotR Jim Send a private message to Jim Jun 16 2013, 7:58pm
            Ugh... Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Jun 16 2013, 8:08pm
                Exactly.... Jim Send a private message to Jim Jun 16 2013, 8:16pm
    True, history repeated Hun200kmh Send a private message to Hun200kmh Jun 16 2013, 7:29pm
        Yes! Thranderz Send a private message to Thranderz Jun 16 2013, 8:53pm
    i don't think that's fair Estel78 Send a private message to Estel78 Jun 16 2013, 7:44pm
        I think it's the pattern, not the people. entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Jun 16 2013, 10:17pm
            But, in many cases, the manner of the complaints are different... Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Jun 16 2013, 10:35pm
                But, as before.... Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Jun 16 2013, 10:42pm
                    Well said Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Jun 16 2013, 10:46pm
                        Well, that's just crazy talk. :p // Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Jun 16 2013, 10:48pm
                        I think I was the same as you, come to think of it, HamSammy Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Jun 17 2013, 10:57am
                            Yup Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Jun 17 2013, 1:50pm
                            . kbdiggity Send a private message to kbdiggity Jul 10 2013, 8:25am
                i agree about the cinematic look of LOTR Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Jun 16 2013, 11:22pm
    Dont know if they upgraded the site since... Metal Slug Send a private message to Metal Slug Jun 16 2013, 7:49pm
        Yes...(more than you wanted to know about board stats) Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Jun 16 2013, 10:17pm
            TMI TMI! Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Jun 16 2013, 10:31pm
            Not too much information Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Jun 16 2013, 10:32pm
    I adored all of the LotR films, particularly FotR totoro Send a private message to totoro Jun 16 2013, 7:55pm
    I skim over posts like that now The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King Jun 16 2013, 7:58pm
        That's the thing... Jim Send a private message to Jim Jun 16 2013, 8:08pm
    For me there is no repetition Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Jun 16 2013, 8:22pm
    Yes, and I have said before:: Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Jun 16 2013, 8:26pm
        How is it absurd to like the lotr films Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Jun 16 2013, 8:31pm
            Both films are the same Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Jun 16 2013, 8:53pm
                Could you please elaborate on this point. I don't quite understand. bungobaggins Send a private message to bungobaggins Jun 16 2013, 8:57pm
                    Statements like "it's absurd to complain about 'the same thing'" or what have you Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Jun 16 2013, 11:08pm
                They are NOT exactly the same. Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Jun 16 2013, 8:57pm
                    Of course, the books are the different Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Jun 16 2013, 9:00pm
                I dont follow Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Jun 16 2013, 9:03pm
                    The trilogies are nothing alike, aesthetically, which is the most jarring for me... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Jun 16 2013, 9:53pm
                        Agreed on everything Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Jun 16 2013, 10:04pm
        I think with the Hobbit Jim Send a private message to Jim Jun 16 2013, 8:33pm
        Interpretation Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Jun 16 2013, 8:52pm
    I find it ironic Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Jun 16 2013, 9:34pm
        .... kbdiggity Send a private message to kbdiggity Jun 16 2013, 9:47pm
            I agree Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Jun 16 2013, 9:58pm
                I didnt Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Jun 16 2013, 10:07pm
                Well, no. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Jun 16 2013, 10:36pm
        About.... Jim Send a private message to Jim Jun 16 2013, 10:57pm
    Well I am fairly new to these boards Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Jun 16 2013, 10:46pm
    One difference may be the role of "expectations". Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Jun 17 2013, 12:21am
        I also think... glor Send a private message to glor Jun 17 2013, 12:43am
        I expected to see Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Jun 17 2013, 10:53am
    Good point... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Jun 17 2013, 12:45am
        Disappointed.....in posters Carnivoran Send a private message to Carnivoran Jun 17 2013, 2:24am
            The Hobbit story Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Jun 17 2013, 5:49am
                re: Azog Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Jun 17 2013, 6:08am
                    AUJ as 2/3 a film Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Jun 17 2013, 2:21pm
                I think this is essentially accurate to the point of being a near perfect summation. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jun 17 2013, 6:59am
                    ty Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Jun 17 2013, 7:57am
                        Think about this too Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Jun 17 2013, 8:08am
                            Agreed... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Jun 17 2013, 9:03am

 
 
 

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