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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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May 28 2013, 1:22am


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"But love not too well the work of thy hands and the devices of thy heart; and remember the true hope of the Noldor lieth in the West and cometh from the Sea."
Here's a bombshell from Arda Reconstructed about this famous line (which I thoroughly love for the way it encapsulates Tolkien's mythology). It's possibly not from JRR himself, but from Christopher, since it's not a line from any of Tolkien's published notes and drafts.








I would agree with your characterization of that as a "bombshell". It is definitely one of the more surprising edits that I discovered. The statement in the Grey Annals, from which this part of the chapter is taken, is simply "love it not too well." I find it impossible to believe that if this had been taken from some text not printed in HoMe, Christopher would not have pointed it out. The only possible source that I can find for this expansion is a statement in a replacement text of chapter 15 of the Quenta Noldorinwa (the precursor to the Quenta Silmarillion which was written in 1930 and printed in The Shaping of Middle-earth) in which it states that the people of Gondolin “grew to love that place, the work of their hands, as the Gnomes do, with a great love” (SoMe, 140). This is a good example of the way that Christopher (and Guy Kay) would insert older material into the text.












'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire

Subject User Time
Silmarillion Chapter 15: Of the Noldor in Beleriand Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 26 2013, 10:16am
    a (few) early thoughts telain Send a private message to telain May 27 2013, 12:19am
        The Cold War in Beleriand noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 27 2013, 9:23am
            Disappearing Elves CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 27 2013, 7:10pm
                More Elf circus acts.... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 28 2013, 1:11am
            Love your Cold War analogies Furuncurunir Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 28 2013, 12:41am
            I like the comparison to the Cold War telain Send a private message to telain May 28 2013, 2:58pm
                Cold War and uneasiness: a reader poll CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jun 4 2013, 11:58am
        Prophecies and people CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 27 2013, 7:01pm
            Maybe vague, but maybe not unwise... telain Send a private message to telain May 28 2013, 5:45pm
                Yes sador Send a private message to sador May 28 2013, 5:52pm
            ulmo, foresight, vagueness, and thorin seaweedshield Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 28 2013, 8:15pm
                Thorin Seaweedshield... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 28 2013, 11:42pm
                    Prophecies with wiggle room - love it noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 29 2013, 1:44pm
        Have been looking forward to posting back! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 28 2013, 12:29am
    Answers sador Send a private message to sador May 27 2013, 2:44pm
        Everybody loves Finrod CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 27 2013, 7:22pm
        Thoughts in response Sador Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 28 2013, 12:53am
    Of Gondolin and random chapters CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 27 2013, 5:58pm
        Some ideas back at you CG! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 28 2013, 1:04am
        Bombshell Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful May 28 2013, 1:22am
            Excellent point by CG Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 28 2013, 1:51am
                Not really Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful May 28 2013, 2:29am
                    I do think your guess is probably right... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 28 2013, 2:41am
                        It's ironic CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 28 2013, 3:08am
            And Unfinished Tales, page 32: sador Send a private message to sador May 28 2013, 3:04am
                That part is pure Tolkien Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful May 28 2013, 3:57am
            Gnomes? noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 28 2013, 10:48am
                "Gnomes" was Tolkien's early name for the Noldor sador Send a private message to sador May 28 2013, 11:53am
                    Gnomes = Noldor. Thanks. Now trying to imagine Elrond as a garden ornament, with wheelbarrow or fishing rod... // noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 28 2013, 12:26pm
                        You've thought up a whole new line of Tolkien merchandise. // CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 28 2013, 1:00pm
                    He never completely rejected the idea Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful May 28 2013, 12:50pm
                        Spoilsport! sador Send a private message to sador May 28 2013, 1:06pm
                            Sorry // Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful May 28 2013, 1:28pm
    Of dirty secrets and politics CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 27 2013, 6:41pm
        Hmmm - about that foresight bit....(good question...) Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 28 2013, 4:07am
    Ulmo's competence and maturity makes the rest of the Valar look bad... Faenoriel Send a private message to Faenoriel Jun 3 2013, 12:57am
        Oops! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jun 3 2013, 1:24am
        Welcome back! sador Send a private message to sador Jun 3 2013, 7:16am
        Welcome back, Faenoriel!! Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Jun 3 2013, 2:28pm
        There's a listing of the early discussion threads... noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jun 3 2013, 3:59pm
    One big question is CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jun 4 2013, 2:07pm
        Would love some more stories... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jun 4 2013, 5:48pm
            sounds like possible Symposium topics to me! telain Send a private message to telain Jun 4 2013, 11:34pm
                Those looming Indexes... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jun 5 2013, 12:11am

 
 
 

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