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How long was Nardil/Andúril?

Otaku-sempai
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May 23 2013, 12:53pm


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It seems to be generally assumed that Narsil (later reforged as Andúril) was a longsword. The films portray it as a hand-and-a-half sword (also known as a bastard sword; Strider's Ranger sword is also such a weapon). When Sam first sees Aragorn on the throne of Gondor with Andúril laid across his knees, Tolkien refers to it as a great sword (the meaning of whch seems to vary from hand-and-a-half to true, two-handed sword). To further complicate things, it seems that the term longsword can also be used to describe a hand-and-a-half blade.

So, is a hand-and-a-half sword most likely correct? Anyone have anything concrete about this?

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring

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How long was Nardil/Andúril? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai May 23 2013, 12:53pm
    Ack!! That should read "Narsil" not "Nardil"! Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai May 23 2013, 8:17pm
        I've done a good couple of typos myself lately.... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 23 2013, 8:21pm
        yes, nardil.... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 23 2013, 9:20pm
    I don't have any concrete evience but... malickfan Send a private message to malickfan May 23 2013, 9:19pm
        Short enough to carry concealed at the hip noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 23 2013, 9:32pm
            but.... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 23 2013, 9:33pm
                No, Strider is carrying a broken sword noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 23 2013, 9:45pm
                    but still Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 23 2013, 9:47pm
                    Exactly. "Broken a foot below the hilt". Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth May 23 2013, 9:53pm
                        A red herring then, my apologies noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 23 2013, 10:01pm
                    Hmmmm Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 23 2013, 10:05pm
            Not too long... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai May 24 2013, 12:32am
                Here's another item for the category Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth May 24 2013, 5:21am
                Another possible clue noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 24 2013, 6:48am
                    how tall is aragorn Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff May 24 2013, 7:00am
                        At Bree it was broken 1 ft from the hilt... Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth May 24 2013, 7:06am
                            Tolkien balances "reality" with literature. Again. noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 24 2013, 11:02am
                                Mops and red herrings CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 24 2013, 2:20pm
                                    sometimes Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 24 2013, 2:32pm
                                        Good point on the fish CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 24 2013, 5:20pm
                                            you know Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 24 2013, 5:28pm
                                                Other herring uses Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 24 2013, 5:41pm
                                    re height Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 24 2013, 2:37pm
                                        Orcrist in real-life Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 24 2013, 5:45pm
                                            That sounds very knowledgeable - does everyone in the RR pack a sword?// noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 24 2013, 8:09pm
                                                I have one! A Noble Collection "Anduril"// Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth May 24 2013, 9:05pm
                                                    okay, that's three... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 24 2013, 9:35pm
                                                        Here! Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai May 25 2013, 5:33pm
                                                Well not all of us pack a magic Walking Staff Furuncurunir // Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 24 2013, 9:54pm
                                            Hmmm, Thorin's front-heavy longsword? elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 May 24 2013, 10:43pm
                                                I had better NOT explain myself Elaen... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 24 2013, 11:13pm
                                                    Well, Brethil CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 25 2013, 12:38am
                                                        you guys Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 25 2013, 12:52am
                                                            "You guys are killing me"- you mean the RR, I hope, & are not experiencing local zombie difficulties? noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 25 2013, 9:05am
                                                                no, no local zombie difficulties Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 25 2013, 4:03pm
                                                        Complete visual overload, my dearest CG... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 25 2013, 12:58am
                                                            If Aragorn is 6".... Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff May 25 2013, 2:23am
                                                                6'6" not 6" LOL Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff May 25 2013, 2:42am
                                                                    Anduril/Narsil ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort May 25 2013, 5:26am
                                                                        I can agree EtheShort Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff May 25 2013, 5:58am
                                                                            From wiki Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff May 25 2013, 9:00am
                                                                                That is an astute observation.... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai May 25 2013, 5:59pm
                                                                                    To confuse things ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort May 25 2013, 7:33pm
                                                                                        Thanks! Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai May 25 2013, 7:37pm
                                                                        I see: calling it a great sword" as in "wonderful sword", "famous sword" etc. not as a technical description of length. // noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 25 2013, 9:10am
                                                                    I read '6" ' in flat mode right after Brethil's discussion of Thorin. It kinda seemed to fit, in an alarming sort of way// noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 25 2013, 9:07am
                                                                        I saw that too Furuncurinir... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 25 2013, 3:46pm
                                                                            Hee Hee elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 May 25 2013, 3:53pm
                                                                I think those are reasonable numbers Yngwulff Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 25 2013, 7:46pm
                                    The red herring is a swordfish??? Now I am confused // noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 24 2013, 4:20pm
                                    Very Monty Python! elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 May 24 2013, 10:36pm
                    I'm guessing hand-and-a-half sword Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai May 24 2013, 12:58pm
                        Does that make Anduril... noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 24 2013, 4:56pm
                            pssst.. Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 24 2013, 5:15pm
                                Are yo calling me "pun gent"? When zombies attack I shall repel them with my mighty mop (once I've figured out how to draw it)// noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 24 2013, 5:18pm
                                    all i know is... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 24 2013, 5:26pm
                                        ....fava beans and a nice Chianti!/ elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 May 24 2013, 10:38pm
                            Not to King Elessar's face. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai May 24 2013, 10:23pm
        the other Elendil? Elthir Send a private message to Elthir May 24 2013, 3:08pm

 
 
 

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