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Stirring the pot re: outcome of BoFA

Kaede
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May 21 2013, 2:46am


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I recently saw what IMHO was a fellow fan mis-interpreting a comment they assumed meant that the ending of TABA might be rewritten to save the heirs. Please don't freak out--as I said, I think this was a fan misinterpreting something....I've heard no such thing from any actual source. (Repeat until blood pressure normalizes.) Better? Continue...

But it did get me thinking. I've been assuming all along that it's essential to the story that all three die--like Romeo and Juliet...they have to die to make the play a tragedy.

But as an exercise in thinking outside the box--do they? I think Thorin is done for, but Fili and Kili are offed by Tolkien in basically a single comment--almost an afterthought. Couldn't they simply abdicate and let Dain have the kingship and the gold without messing up the transfer of power in the plot, and then ride their ponies into the sunset? I imagine all manner of "not canon" freak out if it happened, however.

So, what do you think? For you to feel the films are a worthy experience, is it essential that all three die or is there wiggle room in the storyline?


(This post was edited by Kaede on May 21 2013, 2:48am)

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Stirring the pot re: outcome of BoFA Kaede Send a private message to Kaede May 21 2013, 2:46am
    My opinion bungobaggins May 21 2013, 3:43am
        Fili and Kili swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale May 21 2013, 4:04am
            Thanks! Kaede Send a private message to Kaede May 21 2013, 12:50pm
                pinterboard swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale May 21 2013, 3:19pm
            Hardly "unnoticed"! Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth May 21 2013, 8:27pm
            :D Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë May 22 2013, 6:03am
                Oakentoons swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale May 22 2013, 4:30pm
                    Thank you! Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë May 23 2013, 7:27am
        The relationship reveals at Esgaroth in the book Kaede Send a private message to Kaede May 21 2013, 12:27pm
    I would prefer they died. The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King May 21 2013, 4:09am
    Are They Going to Back Down? Dwarvenfury Send a private message to Dwarvenfury May 21 2013, 4:19am
        Good points Kaede Send a private message to Kaede May 21 2013, 8:38am
        BOFA swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale May 21 2013, 3:17pm
    They need to follow the book on this one Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë May 21 2013, 5:11am
        tossed off in one sentence... swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale May 21 2013, 3:26pm
    I don't want them to *spoilers* Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 May 21 2013, 5:27am
    I can't imagine them *spoilers* dik-dik Send a private message to dik-dik May 21 2013, 9:52am
    I always liked how the cartoon version had even more of them *spoilers* Subaruman Send a private message to Subaruman May 21 2013, 1:34pm
        Ive been saying this for a couple years now Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 May 22 2013, 2:41pm
            ending (spoilers) Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala May 23 2013, 5:32am
                Had either Fili or Kili *spoilers* Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff May 23 2013, 5:44am
                    Of course they would have. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB May 23 2013, 7:05am
                Not a numbers game Na Vedui Send a private message to Na Vedui May 23 2013, 3:08pm
                Spoilers marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina May 24 2013, 6:16pm
    Thinking of the actual *spoilers* The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King May 21 2013, 6:17pm
        Oh, man is right! Kaede Send a private message to Kaede May 21 2013, 6:43pm
            Good point about Thorin. The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King May 21 2013, 6:54pm
    I think more characters *spoilers* sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 May 21 2013, 10:27pm
        What if, painjoiker Send a private message to painjoiker May 21 2013, 11:34pm
        Bombur *spoilers* DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB May 22 2013, 7:04am
            It doesn't have to be a major event Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 May 22 2013, 3:45pm
                But what would the point be? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB May 22 2013, 4:15pm
                    Why stop now? // Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 May 22 2013, 4:15pm
                        Well I'm asking you. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB May 22 2013, 4:18pm
                            I think it adds Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 May 22 2013, 4:46pm
                                of course, did it change anything in LOTR... swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale May 22 2013, 5:10pm
                                ooooooo idk about killing more dwarves The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King May 22 2013, 5:23pm
                                I'm not sure the two are comparable DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB May 22 2013, 6:15pm
            Death can be random and not always meaningful Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi May 26 2013, 10:55am
    Hmmm.... marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina May 22 2013, 12:29am
        I've seen those.... Kaede Send a private message to Kaede May 22 2013, 2:05am
            Whoops marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina May 22 2013, 3:22am
    REMINDER: Let's watch the spoilers, especially in the subject lines entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden May 22 2013, 7:44pm
        whoops sorry! The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King May 23 2013, 2:54am

 
 
 

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