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Durin's Ring, Durin's Bane, Durin's Folk, the malice of The Enemy, The Ring of Thrain, and amazing flashback potential

AinurOlorin
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May 19 2013, 6:20pm


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The vision of the potential scenes won't entirely leave my thought. . . A prologue of brief narration by our favourite Wizard, quickly outlining the essentials, all the while tying it subtly in with the proluge from Fellowship. "Of Olde Seven Rings of Power were given to the Dwarf Lords, and the greatest of these was gifted to Durin, eldest and mightiest of the Dwarven Forefathers. . .but though the Rings could inflame in the Dwarves an unsatiable lust for treasure, akin to the obsession of dragons, the dwarves could not be bent to the will of the Ring Maker, nor turned to phantoms or wraiths. Thus they gained the unending Malice of The Enemy, and their Rings became cursed with ill fortune. It was this malice that awoke, in the very foundations of the dwarves most sacred Kingdom, an evil too ancient and powerful for even King Durin and his fierce folk to withstand. . . " Cue scene of Durin (actor made to look like one of the most notable and noble seeming of the dwarves from the Fellowship opening, an easy enough task since they were buried in prosthetics), the heated wind and glow of a demon's hellife beating upon his face, turning to his son ( I know the Balrog killed Nain within a year, but that is the sort of thing that would probably be truncated out, interesting and sinister though it is) and thrusting the Ring into his hand his Great Ring, with an urgent plea for the latter to flea and lead (noise and glimpse of dwarven warriors being slain six ways till Sunday in the background) their people to safety, perhaps noting, "Khazad-Dum is lost. And against this foe, there is no hope of vengeance." *Takes up his great axe and goes to his doom*, perhaps we see fragments of the smoking, ruined axe come flying back into the chamber. A touch more brief dialogue of how the Dwarves fled Moria and migrated North to found a new kingdom at Erebor. "The Ring of Durin continued to be an heirloom of his descendants, passed in unbroken line from father to son, until at last it came to the hands of Thror and Thrain" Here, the end fraction of the proluge, focusing on Thrain, Dol Guldur and Gandalf would begin.



There are strong indications that The Ring of Thrain and Thror, which was once the Ring of Durin, is going to get some attention in these films, or that this was at least Sir Peter's intent. This Great Ring is present on the finger of Thror in Erebor, and we know that conversation concerning The Seven amongst The White Council WAS filmed, though whether it was an outake, a converastion intended for EE or for the Smaug film, we cannot yet say. Something akin to this would greatly help in tying the currently loose strands of Durin and his folk, The Greatest of The Seven Dwarf Rings, THe Balrog of Moria (Bane of much name dropped and sacred Durin, cause of the fall of Moria and terror of The Dwarves, not to mention most iconic villain of Fellowship), the matter of Moria (one that won't lie until Balin lies resting therein), Thror's possesion of a Great Ring, Thrain's recieving of it and his capture.

"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."

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Durin's Ring, Durin's Bane, Durin's Folk, the malice of The Enemy, The Ring of Thrain, and amazing flashback potential AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 19 2013, 6:20pm
    Great stuff AO! elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 May 19 2013, 8:32pm
        Here is to hoping our hearts are telling us what will be AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 19 2013, 9:49pm
            I hope so Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff May 20 2013, 2:56am
    was the Dwarf history always your favourite parts from the books? lurtz2010 Send a private message to lurtz2010 May 19 2013, 9:28pm
        I have always thought it was very powerful stuff, but I think it is much more relevant AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 19 2013, 9:48pm
    too much jimmyfenn Send a private message to jimmyfenn May 19 2013, 10:04pm
        it would just be a live action version of the cartoon movie lurtz2010 Send a private message to lurtz2010 May 20 2013, 1:48am
            I like the cartoon a lot malickfan Send a private message to malickfan May 20 2013, 8:47am
                Yup Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff May 20 2013, 8:52am
                Necromancer lurtz2010 Send a private message to lurtz2010 May 20 2013, 10:27am
                There's more about DG than just that in LOTR. The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King May 20 2013, 4:45pm
                I mostly agree with lurtz2010 Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai May 20 2013, 4:49pm
    Ehhhhh idk The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King May 20 2013, 2:42am
        Too late for that. They already veered off into miles of made up BS, they could at least give the real awesome bits AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 20 2013, 5:31am
            Phew! Stop to draw breath AO, you're going a bit blue!! elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 May 20 2013, 10:00am
                Exactly. Durin has been mentioned. . . ALOT. It would add HUGE resonance to the films as a whole AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 20 2013, 8:08pm
            Azog was necessary for the first film. The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King May 20 2013, 4:56pm
                what advanced them to rivendell? jimmyfenn Send a private message to jimmyfenn May 20 2013, 5:51pm
                    I only hope Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano May 20 2013, 5:55pm
                        Exactly! The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King May 20 2013, 6:23pm
                            Sarcasm alert! Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano May 20 2013, 8:43pm
                                Well I'm going to go lay down now haha The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King May 20 2013, 8:49pm
                                    Now that you know my evil intentions Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano May 20 2013, 8:51pm
                    Oh geeeze The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King May 20 2013, 6:20pm
                He just wasn't. The film didn't have to include him any more than the book does. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 20 2013, 8:00pm
        I would also add that, if they were going to be pure Hobbit movies, no Dwarf history etc., there was no point in 3 films, save the worst AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 20 2013, 7:54pm
            I agree in part The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King May 20 2013, 8:47pm
                It isn't too late. Among other things, Azog's survival has yet to be explained, nor why AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 22 2013, 5:34am
                    I like this idea Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë May 22 2013, 5:47am
                        I think either a tracing of the ill luck of the Dwarf Ring starting with Durin, as AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 22 2013, 6:26pm
                            Billy Connely Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff May 23 2013, 6:20am
                                Lol. Indeed. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 23 2013, 9:10pm
                            Either works Elessar Send a private message to Elessar May 24 2013, 1:26pm
                                It is a powerful moment, that is true. In a vaccum though, particularly with the matter of Moria raised AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 24 2013, 11:22pm
                                    I agree Elessar Send a private message to Elessar May 25 2013, 3:26am
                                        I hope so to. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 25 2013, 6:57pm
                                            Patience Elessar Send a private message to Elessar May 25 2013, 7:14pm
                                                Too true. lol AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 26 2013, 6:34pm
    Plus... The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King May 20 2013, 6:25pm
    First Minutes of DoS Arannir Send a private message to Arannir May 23 2013, 3:29pm
        Thanks, and I also like the idea about the completion of the tale in Beorn's AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 23 2013, 9:16pm
            I like it too Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff May 24 2013, 3:41am
                *friendly smile* AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin May 24 2013, 5:02am

 
 
 

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