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Its power/light could have diminished over time

painjoiker
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May 19 2013, 12:13pm


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Its power/light could have diminished over time [In reply to] Can't Post

We don't know what have happened to it!
And I don't think it is a stretch to think that detail was a slip, because he wrote The Hobbit first and after that he wrote about the silmarils and put in similarities to the arkenstone and "forgot" about the cutting and shaping Smile

Or, if we consider the possibility about diminishing power then it may have been possible to shape it Wink

One other possible explanation is that the equipment have become much better, and that they could not shape the silmarils in The First Age due to bad equipment, but during the late Second Age the equipment had become much better and made it possible to shape them? The comment about "yet was more strong than adamant, so that no violence could mar it or break it within the Kingdom of Arda." could be more symbolic as a reference to the equipment rather than the silmaril itself

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Subject User Time
the arkenstone is a sphere jimmyfenn Send a private message to jimmyfenn May 18 2013, 2:16pm
    I Always Assumed Barrow-Wight Send a private message to Barrow-Wight May 18 2013, 2:29pm
    Arkenstone Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë May 18 2013, 2:30pm
        Agreed - and I Smaug certainly couldn't have sat on it for so long without suffering some torment! / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB May 18 2013, 2:33pm
            It could have been buried. Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë May 18 2013, 2:37pm
                in movie lore noone states that it couldn´t be a Silmaril Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) May 18 2013, 6:16pm
                    John Rateliff goes into lengthy detail answering this very question in The History of The Hobbit malickfan Send a private message to malickfan May 18 2013, 8:08pm
                    Well I suppose that's true. Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë May 18 2013, 10:18pm
                        You may consider that, painjoiker Send a private message to painjoiker May 19 2013, 12:43am
                            Of course it's possible Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë May 19 2013, 1:08am
                            I believe he did has a Silmaril in his mind... Marionette Send a private message to Marionette May 21 2013, 3:16pm
                        Agreed Ardamire Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 19 2013, 1:05am
                            Another excellent reason Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë May 19 2013, 1:10am
                                easy way Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) May 19 2013, 8:41am
                                    The Silmarillion isn't getting made Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë May 20 2013, 3:03am
                                        I sincerely hope a Silmarillion film never sees the light of day malickfan Send a private message to malickfan May 20 2013, 9:27am
                                            Roverrandom Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë May 20 2013, 2:23pm
                                Its power/light could have diminished over time painjoiker Send a private message to painjoiker May 19 2013, 12:13pm
                                    The Silmarillion's progression Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë May 20 2013, 3:09am
        Arkenstone Na Vedui Send a private message to Na Vedui May 20 2013, 11:01pm
            Sub-creation Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë May 21 2013, 2:37am
                Aule Na Vedui Send a private message to Na Vedui May 21 2013, 12:16pm
    The Arkenstone is very like a Silmaril Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai May 18 2013, 8:08pm
        even though it was chucked in a chasm....... boldog Send a private message to boldog May 18 2013, 8:56pm
            Hold on there, Baba-Louie! Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai May 18 2013, 10:41pm
                The Arkenstone? Bomby BOT... over 2 years ago Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil May 19 2013, 3:35pm
    I won't lie Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil May 20 2013, 6:05pm
    Even more similar to a Silmaril Marionette Send a private message to Marionette May 21 2013, 3:09pm

 
 
 

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