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Brethil
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May 18 2013, 2:11pm


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The Teleri are still a bit of a mystery to me in many ways.




Yes they are a bit obscured. I find that JRRT refers to them as the chief silversmiths of Valinor, because they found gold and silver in their lands. We know about their ship-building as a skill, but of course ship-building itself is a huge clue as to their natures. One builds ships to travel in...were they gazing already towards Arda perhaps, before Feanor arrived? Thinking about relatives left behind?
Only a small number I think actually made the crossing; so many, including Thingol, stopped along the way instead. So I wonder if they clung to the shore and built their ships thinking about heading back to Arda some day, and maybe would have naturally done so without the Kinslaying.

Manwe, when asked a simple "Yes" or "No" question, contemplated, and responded "the middle one."

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Silmarillion Chapter 13: Of the Return of the Noldor Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 12 2013, 2:21pm
    maciliel-thoughts Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 12 2013, 3:35pm
        Moriquendi and the Sun Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 1:11am
        Aren't we lucky Fingon didn't save another F, like Finrod? Too complicated CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 13 2013, 1:12am
            Haha! Too many F's !!!!! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 1:43am
            maedhros Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 13 2013, 7:25pm
                Oaths and Fingon CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 13 2013, 7:50pm
                they are called "Eagles ex machina" in our household... telain Send a private message to telain May 14 2013, 2:29am
                    +love+ "eagles ex machina" : ) Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 14 2013, 4:40pm
    A few thoughts... elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 May 12 2013, 10:51pm
        Feanor's last (Shakespearean) words... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 1:00am
            Nah. sador Send a private message to sador May 13 2013, 10:45am
    Ah, look at all that free real estate in front of us! CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 12 2013, 11:21pm
        Feanor's early exit Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë May 12 2013, 11:44pm
            Good point about the sons' increased obligation. // CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 12 2013, 11:53pm
            Agreed Ardamire - his death adds potency Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 1:25am
        Feanor and the Dawn Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 1:18am
        The Noldor at war, and sleeping oaths (a hasty post...) noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 13 2013, 5:54pm
            Now that I think about it, why call on Manwe instead of Varda, the Vala of choice? // CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 13 2013, 6:01pm
                Hmmm...to bird or not to bird? Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 6:18pm
                i think because Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 13 2013, 7:03pm
                    Those are all excellent reasons. Thank you. // CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 13 2013, 7:40pm
            Comparing Ulmo and Manwe... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 6:15pm
                Really like that comparison: CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 13 2013, 6:46pm
    Now that the Bad Elf is out of the way CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 12 2013, 11:52pm
        morgoth is that guy Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 13 2013, 12:24am
        Ha! Good question. sador Send a private message to sador May 13 2013, 10:11am
    Now that everyone's arrived, let's get the party started CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 13 2013, 12:12am
        elven spending Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 13 2013, 12:59am
            Oh, I like that. :) // CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 13 2013, 1:14am
            Or... that naked Dwarf calendar!!!! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 1:20am
    Politics as usual CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 13 2013, 12:50am
        curiousg Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 13 2013, 1:09am
        Where do these Elves get their ideas? Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 1:41am
        Thingol: is Melian the problem? Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 1:47am
            One problem with Melian CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 13 2013, 2:23am
                I agree with the agreement of Telain telain Send a private message to telain May 14 2013, 2:17am
                    Great phrase there BTW! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 14 2013, 3:16am
                        thinking about the silmarils this evening Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 14 2013, 3:50am
                            you are not alone telain Send a private message to telain May 14 2013, 1:06pm
                                Yes, Telain, we are all caught up in The Oath CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 14 2013, 1:41pm
                                silmarils -- reflected light of the fire imperishable Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 14 2013, 4:53pm
                            I like the Imperishable Flame as Silmaril-origin, but CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 14 2013, 1:14pm
                            I love these thoughts... elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 May 14 2013, 2:15pm
                                Elves and moths noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 14 2013, 9:41pm
                                    are you sure.... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 14 2013, 9:43pm
                                        Or a winged Balrog? // CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 14 2013, 11:01pm
                                    If you hear "Gimme my Silmaril...!" squeaking in a teeny cartoon voice... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 15 2013, 12:18am
                                        pfffffffftttttttt!!!!!!!! Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 15 2013, 12:42am
                                            Tiny eagle! noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 15 2013, 11:26am
                                                Isn't it obvious? elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 May 15 2013, 12:05pm
                                        Oh, that o-puns a can of worms CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 15 2013, 12:32pm
                                            And to deal with a Tolkien bug... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 16 2013, 12:08am
                                                Noooooo!!!! elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 May 16 2013, 8:28am
                                                    Wait CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 16 2013, 12:46pm
                                                        somebody Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 16 2013, 2:35pm
                                                            Well, he certainly isn't a damsel fly!! (see Brethils post on Main) elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 May 16 2013, 2:44pm
                                                                ****damsel fly**** hahahahaha!!!!!! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 16 2013, 2:50pm
                                                        Shhhh...keep your voice down... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 16 2013, 2:43pm
                                                            "The Huorns" sounds like a French jazz ensemble noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme May 16 2013, 6:24pm
                        I am very impressed! telain Send a private message to telain May 14 2013, 1:18pm
                            Ha, bound we are...those troublesome oaths.. Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 14 2013, 1:55pm
                                What's natural and not CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 14 2013, 5:17pm
                                    creative thought Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 14 2013, 5:22pm
                                        Good one, Mac! :) // CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 14 2013, 6:43pm
                                            didja notice... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 14 2013, 7:03pm
                                                Hahahaha- Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 14 2013, 7:20pm
                                    a reflection of a reflection Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 14 2013, 5:26pm
                                        diluted... telain Send a private message to telain May 15 2013, 3:58pm
                                    The Valar and pretty, shiny things Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 14 2013, 7:32pm
                                        Nienna vs Ungoliant smack-down CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 14 2013, 8:43pm
                                            the mingled blight of the two trees Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 14 2013, 9:14pm
                                                Yes, that was Yavanna's comment CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 14 2013, 9:34pm
                                light, incorruptible Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 14 2013, 6:19pm
                                    The PERFECT phrasing - thank you Mac! (but now my brain is offline) Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 14 2013, 7:07pm
                                    Eru and the Flame Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 16 2013, 3:15am
            thingall Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 13 2013, 2:24am
                Thingall (haha) and Melian Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 10:27am
        Two points... elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 May 13 2013, 9:03am
            Prince Rainbow sador Send a private message to sador May 13 2013, 10:51am
                Thanks for that reference, Sador CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 13 2013, 3:59pm
            Glad you enjoy the bunny-book too! CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 13 2013, 4:10pm
    Answers - part 1 sador Send a private message to sador May 13 2013, 9:07am
        Fire and the Sun telain Send a private message to telain May 14 2013, 2:41am
    Answers - part 2 sador Send a private message to sador May 13 2013, 2:12pm
        Maehdros' chances Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 3:28pm
            Neat idea CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 13 2013, 3:45pm
            maedhros Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 13 2013, 4:57pm
                Oaths CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 13 2013, 5:41pm
                    great summation of oaths Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 13 2013, 6:57pm
                Awesome points about Maehdros and leadership Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 6:24pm
                    ha! : ) Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 13 2013, 6:37pm
                        Feanor and Nerdanel as rulers Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 10:20pm
                            she's a smart one, that nerdanel Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 13 2013, 11:59pm
    many interesting questions elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 May 13 2013, 3:40pm
        Feanor's spirit as servant or lord? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 13 2013, 3:55pm
            hmm, difficult question elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 May 21 2013, 9:49pm
                Feanor as his own island Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 21 2013, 11:30pm
                    His mother, the Valar, Nerdanel, Olwe - even Melkor sador Send a private message to sador May 22 2013, 6:24am
                        I do belive that too Sador Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 22 2013, 1:10pm
        Comsumption - by oneself. Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 6:07pm
    So many things happening elevorn Send a private message to elevorn May 13 2013, 4:00pm
        A Truism! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 13 2013, 6:34pm
    Show me your Elvish papers, comrade PhantomS Send a private message to PhantomS May 14 2013, 3:17pm
        Some thoughts on your thoughts Phantom... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 14 2013, 4:05pm
    late is the hour in which Telain responds telain Send a private message to telain May 17 2013, 1:35pm
        Elves, war, and flying the coop CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG May 17 2013, 5:57pm
            Elves behaving as Elves Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 17 2013, 6:29pm
                noldor longing and sense of loss not leaving them Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 17 2013, 7:18pm
                    and that is interesting... telain Send a private message to telain May 17 2013, 10:57pm
                        The Wizards as a late bit of wisdom Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 17 2013, 11:26pm
            Did we turn the oven off before we left for Valinor? telain Send a private message to telain May 17 2013, 11:11pm
                Okay Telian, ROFL now! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 17 2013, 11:30pm
                simpatico Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 18 2013, 3:04am
                    I totally agree, Maciliel elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 May 18 2013, 5:23am
                        the ironic vanyar Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 18 2013, 10:56am
                        Excellent depiction of the Vanyar here Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 18 2013, 1:47pm
                    credit where it is due! telain Send a private message to telain May 18 2013, 1:53pm
                        Teleri Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 18 2013, 2:11pm
                        telain, telain, telain! Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 18 2013, 5:57pm
                            allow me to pour you a cup of miruvor... telain Send a private message to telain May 18 2013, 9:46pm
                                thanks, telain! : ) Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 18 2013, 11:00pm
                                    Thanks for this Maciliel elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 May 18 2013, 11:26pm
                                        my pleasure, elaen! : ) Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 19 2013, 1:32am
                                    Excellent post Telpemairo! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 19 2013, 1:11am
                                        i'm getting this image.. Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 19 2013, 1:38am
                                    I have not overlooked your quote from Morgoth's Ring... telain Send a private message to telain May 20 2013, 3:21pm
                                        telain, you've inspired me... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 20 2013, 6:16pm
                    The Teleri elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 May 21 2013, 9:18pm
        Teldaquent I name thee - the last word is a welcome guest! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 17 2013, 6:23pm
            nernandel as a decisive influence on maedhros.. Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel May 17 2013, 7:22pm
                Indeed, I agree here Telpemairo Brethil Send a private message to Brethil May 17 2013, 8:21pm
            thrilled... telain Send a private message to telain May 17 2013, 10:50pm

 
 
 

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