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Pippin's arc


May 15 2013, 10:08pm

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Pippin's arc Can't Post

is one of the best in the trilogy. Yes, he's a buffoon. But eventually he comes to acknowledge his idiocracy and remorse, thus, evolve into a deeper character


May 15 2013, 11:57pm

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To me, one of the absolutely most bucket-of-tears-inducing moments in the trilogy is at the end of the Battle of the Pelennor Fields when Pippin finds Merry. After everything we've heard about how Merry has always been the one to look after Pippin, and all the foolishness we've seen from Pippin, when he finds Merry so badly injured, he grows up in the space of a few seconds. When he says "No, Merry, I'm going to look after you.", I just cannot not cry, every single time. There is so much meaning in that sentence, coming from him. And BB just nails it too, with his expression, and his delivery, he doesn't over emphasize any of the words, he just says it so simply and heartfelt.
Never a dry eye after this scene.

Pippin: Merry! Merry, it's me! It's Pippin.
Merry: I knew you'd find me.
Pippin: Yes.
Merry: Are you going to leave me?
Pippin: No, Merry. I'm going to look after you.

P.S. And hi, GiantMushroomBear :)!

Smile Loresilme


May 16 2013, 4:08am

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agree 100% [In reply to] Can't Post

I kinda wish though that they had kept the original line "Are you going to bury me?"

Kelly of Water's Edge

May 19 2013, 11:01am

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The movie downplayed exactly how bad shape Merry was in at that point. The scene did have as much impact as it could considering the line change.

Frodo and Sam are older, and Merry is already very competent even when the story starts, as being heir of Buckland (i.e. on the outskirts of the Shire and therefore part of it's first line of defense), he's presumably already been taught how to deal with unsavoury "big people" and wild animals like wolves coming around if the Shire gets a particularly bad winter. Out of the four, it's Pippin who most represents the stereotypical boy who goes to war and comes back a man. He has to grow up extremely fast - and rises to the challenge, beginning with his trick with the brooch when he realizes that he's going to have to be proactive to get Merry and himself away from the Orcs attempting to get them to Isengard.

Ziggy Stardust

May 21 2013, 1:36am

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Yes, yes and yes! [In reply to] Can't Post

I sometimes feel that Pippin is overlooked. Sure he was silly, and caused trouble and needed looking after at first, but he grew up in such a short time. Frodo and Sam are older, and Merry is heir of Buckland, so even he knows how to deal. Pippin had to learn it all basically on the road, surrounded by darkness and danger, and he did it. He survived and became stronger for it. Pippin's arc certainly touches my heart.


May 21 2013, 10:53pm

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the hobbits like brothers. Just like the Sisterhood of the traveling pants (pardon my comparison here) each hobbit looks out for one another in friendship and each hobbit has his own strength or weakness. I can tell in the book and Jackson's life action films that all four of them care about each other. Pippin seems like he would be the type to be a prankster at school if the hobbits went to school, and I can picture Frodo, Sam, and Merry (especially Merry though) helping him out of his sticky situations just like they do in the book. And then maybe get into trouble with him. I love Pippin (in the book).


May 24 2013, 5:47am

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I think when Pip looks into the Palantir it sobered him up with an"OH $%*@!!!, We're not in in the Shire any more Toto." moment is when his arc started to peak and he had to put his big boy hobbit pants on.

It scared the bejesus out of him and when he offers his service to Denethor to atone for Boromirs sacrifice and when his actions save Faramir.it peaks.

Take this Brother May it Serve you Well
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