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Incomplete Dialog Completed


May 6 2013, 1:45pm

Post #1 of 10 (918 views)
Incomplete Dialog Completed Can't Post

So, when movie Gandalf says, "The dawn will take you all" do you mentally complete the dialog with "and be stone to you"? I do. There are a few places in the film where Tolkien's dialog has been slightly changed or truncated for reasons best known the screen writers. Which are the ones you most often complete?

IMHO it's difficult to not do this since Tolkien was careful about rhythm and cadence in his writing.

Aragalen the Green

May 6 2013, 2:00pm

Post #2 of 10 (470 views)
Yep! [In reply to] Can't Post

I do, at that point as well.

And Bilbo's description of Bag-end, where he ends with "all the comforts of home" or something like that, I always think "and that means comfort" as in the book.

'"Never laugh at live dragons, Bilbo you fool!" he said to himself, and it became a favourite saying of his later, and passed into a proverb.'


May 6 2013, 2:36pm

Post #3 of 10 (429 views)
Same here! [In reply to] Can't Post



May 6 2013, 4:09pm

Post #4 of 10 (428 views)
Also Kili to Thorin [In reply to] Can't Post

"We didn't mean anything by it" ... "uncle." (so essential!) - gets me every time Crazy

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Tol Eressea

May 6 2013, 6:19pm

Post #5 of 10 (328 views)
I too thought the "uncle" angle should have been played [In reply to] Can't Post

It would have added something to the dynamic of the characters knowing that Thorin was Kili and Fili's uncle.

As far as the rest of Tolkien's dialogue from the book that made it into the film I must admit I was rather disappointed. Every bit that did make it was altered in some way. Its almost as if the writers couldn't stand to let anything they didn't write get into the film. I would have rather seen less changes to the dialogue and had much of it straight out of the book on screen. Bu the parts they did cut short, I do hear the words from the book playing out in my head and wonder why the change?

(This post was edited by sinister71 on May 6 2013, 6:23pm)

Ziggy Stardust

May 7 2013, 12:30am

Post #6 of 10 (208 views)
I thought I was the only one [In reply to] Can't Post

Glad to know there are others who do this as well. I just watched The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey this past Saturday, and in my mind, Gandalf says " and be stone to you."

Ziggy Stardust

May 7 2013, 12:31am

Post #7 of 10 (189 views)
I think that too [In reply to] Can't Post

I always add that line in my head as well. I didn't know there were others that did this. Great minds think alike I suppose.


May 7 2013, 2:41am

Post #8 of 10 (190 views)
not really in The Hobbit though [In reply to] Can't Post

but in FOTR for some reason when Bilbo says "I am old Gandalf I know I don't look it I'm beginning to feel it in my heart" I always finish it with " heart of hearts well preserved indeed"


May 18 2013, 3:07am

Post #9 of 10 (91 views)
I hate some of the changes [In reply to] Can't Post

The change to the begining passage was the worst to me, just let me hear it the way I read it. Not the insertion of "icky crawl things" or whatever it was, etc.


May 18 2013, 4:11am

Post #10 of 10 (93 views)
It's kinda Faithful [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo is writing this book for Frodo so it's strange that he would be describing a Hobbit Hole To Frodo in the first place In The Film he says:

"In a Hole in the ground there lived a Hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole filled with worms and oozy smells this was a Hobbit hole and that means good food, a warm hearth and all the comforts of home."

In the book it says

“In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort.”


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