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Sauron and the architecture of Dol Guldur *possible spoilers*

Subaruman
Bree


May 2 2013, 2:18pm

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Sauron and the architecture of Dol Guldur *possible spoilers* Can't Post

So we're all familiar with Sauron eventually using the tower of Barad-dur as a physical embodiment during the timeframe of LOTR (at least in the movie version). Also, in the FotR movie, Saruman states: "He cannot yet take physical form..."

Now, in AUJ, we see the actual architecture of Dol Guldur as "living". One of the Nazgul statues flexes and moves, while the Witch King's spirit actually rises from another broken statue. I might be seeing things, but as I was watching the movie again last night, it looks to me like Sauron's form appears as part of the large structure of Dol Guldur itself. It could be coincidence, but given the amount of time this team puts into small details, I'm inclined to believe it's intentional. In the following screencap, the form I'm talking about occupies roughly the lower right quarter of the entire structure. The face/helmet seems visible to me, with the rest of the body outlined but less evident. Anyway, I could just be seeing things.

http://screencapped.net/...20#top_display_media

"Here is a book very unsuitable for dramatic or semi-dramatic representation. If that is attempted, it needs more space, a lot of space."

- J.R.R. Tolkien, 1956


Arannir
Valinor

May 2 2013, 2:23pm

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Not sure what to comment on the topic... [In reply to] Can't Post

... but not having seen the BluRay yet, those screencaps look marvellous!


Really like the DG design...


sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea


May 2 2013, 3:48pm

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I wondered about this the last time i watched AUJ... [In reply to] Can't Post

Why did the statue tighten it's grip on it's sword? And it wasn't even the statue the Nazgul was inhabiting. I've no idea...


(This post was edited by sauget.diblosio on May 2 2013, 3:56pm)


Subaruman
Bree


May 2 2013, 4:56pm

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It seems like another glimpse into these creatures/spirits inhabiting the structure itself. [In reply to] Can't Post

Which will make the actual destruction of Dol Guldur even more crucial.

"Here is a book very unsuitable for dramatic or semi-dramatic representation. If that is attempted, it needs more space, a lot of space."

- J.R.R. Tolkien, 1956


Eruonen
Tol Eressea


May 2 2013, 8:03pm

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I am not seeing it, but I do see an Ent and Easter Island statues.... [In reply to] Can't Post

Could you draw an outline?


Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Grey Havens


May 2 2013, 9:21pm

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Another Nazgulæ [In reply to] Can't Post

 

The flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true!


Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


May 3 2013, 5:17am

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Here you go. [In reply to] Can't Post

I've circled the "helmet" portion of the outline. Imagine the two arches as the eye openings and the hanging bit between as the nose guard.



Silverlode

"Dark is the water of Kheled-zāram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-nāla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dūm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."



(This post was edited by Silverlode on May 3 2013, 5:18am)


DanielLB
Immortal


May 3 2013, 9:45am

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I don't see Sauron ... [In reply to] Can't Post

But I do see Maleficent!


Bombadil
Half-elven


May 3 2013, 11:25am

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BWAhaHA..Ha wha? Keep Breathing? [In reply to] Can't Post

Daniel...Really?


(This post was edited by Bombadil on May 3 2013, 11:32am)


deskp
Lorien

May 3 2013, 1:47pm

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Silly statue [In reply to] Can't Post

Uh I really didn't like the moving statue in AUJ, I believe its jsut there for effect thats its a scary place, and I would much ratehr have seen the statue wthout the movement. Keep it atleast some what realistic


Subaruman
Bree


May 3 2013, 2:12pm

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Thanks! - that's exactly the area I was talking about.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

"Here is a book very unsuitable for dramatic or semi-dramatic representation. If that is attempted, it needs more space, a lot of space."

- J.R.R. Tolkien, 1956


Eruonen
Tol Eressea


May 3 2013, 2:19pm

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Pareidolia effect, if you look at the bottom of the circled area [In reply to] Can't Post

you will see a smiling face looking sideways. Anytime you have multiple angles and shades the human brain will try to find a face. It happens all the time with wood grain on the floor, or decorative materials plus natural figures.


Subaruman
Bree


May 3 2013, 3:24pm

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or maybe Pareimaia effect, in this instance...// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

"Here is a book very unsuitable for dramatic or semi-dramatic representation. If that is attempted, it needs more space, a lot of space."

- J.R.R. Tolkien, 1956


Eruonen
Tol Eressea


May 3 2013, 3:31pm

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Drum roll.................. ;) [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Bombadil
Half-elven


May 3 2013, 11:41pm

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The Tallest Tower...Has a Light ON... Within? [In reply to] Can't Post

look closely at Cap One?

Wazzt that...
Somebody
Home?


Eruonen
Tol Eressea


May 3 2013, 11:50pm

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The low spot of yellow is in an odd place, no window that I can see. [In reply to] Can't Post

Digital screen capture issue?


Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


May 4 2013, 3:36am

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The question is [In reply to] Can't Post

since this is a completely CG-created landscape, whether the effect was accidental or intended?

Silverlode

"Dark is the water of Kheled-zāram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-nāla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dūm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."



Subaruman
Bree


May 4 2013, 4:59pm

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Exactly [In reply to] Can't Post

and given the detail and subtleties this team puts into every scene, I tend to lean towards the idea that this was intentional.

"Here is a book very unsuitable for dramatic or semi-dramatic representation. If that is attempted, it needs more space, a lot of space."

- J.R.R. Tolkien, 1956

 
 

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