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Is Or Will There Be Extended Edition?

Tolkien Forever
Gondor

Apr 29 2013, 12:00am

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I'm not buying both this time...

So when will the EE's be out if there is one?

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LordotRings93
Rohan


Apr 29 2013, 12:12am

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And it'll contain 20-25 minutes of new footage and should come out Oct-Nov. A quick glance on Google coulda saved you the trouble of asking this, as this has been asked probably 100 times. Tongue

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Tolkien Forever
Gondor

Apr 29 2013, 4:40am

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Sorry..i'm computer illiterate.. i'm an old fart. Wink

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sam90
Lorien

Apr 29 2013, 4:48pm

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It was announced here on TORn:

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012/10/04/62717-warner-bros-confirms-hobbit-extended-edition/


As for me I still don't know if I am gonna buy the EE of AUJ when it is released at the end of 2013 or if I can be patient long enough to wait a couple of year for a beautiful box-set of all 3 films in EE. One thing for sure, I will not buy the TE.


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Tolkien Forever
Gondor

Apr 29 2013, 4:56pm

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No double dipping this time..

With TLOR's, I bought the TE's in video (lol) & the EE's in DVD.

You know, I never, ever even watch the TE's any longer, even on TV..

To me, they're not even the 'movie' any longer.

And, as I just saw AUJ on an airline flight 2 weeks ago, I can certainly wait until Oct/Nov to see it again...

It's also great timing for the second movie's release (I don't even know the title, lol)

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sam90
Lorien

Apr 29 2013, 5:38pm

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The second film is called: The Desolation OF Smaug

Here's a 3 minutes sneak peek: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2jIFqsvCfQ

And I agree, EE of LOTR are simply better than the TE. I've seen the TE long ago when I was pre-teenager and never watch them again when I came back to LOTR later... The EE was just nicer with all the extra footage. I don't see any particular reason why I should want to watch them again and I've never seen the trilogy in theater....

I expect it will be the same with The Hobbit. I mean who would'nt choose a version of the a film that has between 20 and 25 minutes of extra footage? Especially when the EE is realeased a couple of month later.


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Hamfast of Gamwich
Rivendell


Apr 29 2013, 5:39pm

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Where did you get the info that it would have 20-25 minutes more footage?

"Durin's Heir you may be, but even with one eye you should see clearer. If this is victory, then our hands are too small to hold it. We will not enter Khazad-dum. You will not enter Khazad-dum. Beyond the shadow of the gate it waits for you still: Durin’s Bane. The world must change and some other power than ours must come before Durin’s Folk walk again in Moria.”


sam90
Lorien

Apr 29 2013, 5:43pm

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It is indeed 20-25 from what information is available. My bad.


sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea


Apr 29 2013, 6:04pm

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in various interviews, but i believe it was first mentioned in a pre-screening interview that Harry Knowles did with PJ. back in December.


Eruonen
Tol Eressea


Apr 29 2013, 9:10pm

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Thanks for the link, and I agree, the EE is more enjoyable [In reply to] Can't Post

as a complete film experience.


Sinister71
Tol Eressea


Apr 30 2013, 1:11am

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Where in the appendices are the nazgul in tombs or have escaped from them? [In reply to] Can't Post

Jackson keeps blaming the appendices for these changes, I must have missed that part when I read them the first dozen times Crazy. I don't get how They can false advertise like that saying the material is from the appendices when its clearly not. It looks interesting enough, but why not call it what it is "made up" or "pure invention" It will be interesting to see the seen in context to the rest of the film but I do not remember reading anything of the sort of scene I saw in that clip from the appendices.


Ardamírë
Valinor


Apr 30 2013, 2:20am

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This is my problem as well. [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't have a problem per se with changes. The tombs look interesting enough, and I'm actually pretty excited to see the scene (all finished an complete). My problem, though, is when Jackson and the others keep pretending that this stuff is from Tolkien. It's not. But of course, it's all PR and blaming Tolkien for all this gets people to accept it. I've read other forums and people genuinely think the added bits are Tolkien's intent. Too bad really. Just call it an adaptation and be done with it.

ETA - oh, and by the way, both my signature and avatar are proof that the appendices can be adapted wonderfully. I wish they'd taken the same approach this time.

"...not till now have I understood the tale of your people and their fall. As wicked fools I scorned them, but I pity them at last. For if this is indeed, as the Eldar say, the gift of the One to Men, it is bitter to receive." -Arwen

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sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea


Apr 30 2013, 4:02am

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ETA - oh, and by the way, both my signature and avatar are proof that the appendices can be adapted wonderfully. I wish they'd taken the same approach this time.

Jackson/Walsh/Boyens sure seem to have lost their touch, or reverence of Tolkien, in the last ten years. They're doing the same things, only much, much clumsier.


Eleniel
Grey Havens


Apr 30 2013, 6:24am

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I've said before that this time around the film feels more like they're using Tolkien to sell their product, rather than making the film to serve Tolkien's vision. Whatever happened to "trust Tolkien" and the scriptwriters realizing it worked better when they kept closer to the book?


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Arannir
Valinor

Apr 30 2013, 7:11am

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I can see that if one did not like the changes so far... [In reply to] Can't Post

... it comes across like that and do not want to contradict you, since it is your opinion.

Just want to give a different take on it. As for me who liked most of the changes, I think the tomb story is part of the attempt to give the White Council the Nazgul as opponents in the attack on Dol Guldur (and very likely put in Glorfindel's prophecy on the end of the Witch-King... potentially being said by Tauriel).


Ardamírë
Valinor


Apr 30 2013, 4:33pm

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Watched ROTK last night... [In reply to] Can't Post

And I have to say, I'm actually really hoping (since they are making these changes) that someone says the Glorfindel prophesy. It will make Gandalf's line in ROTK "the one they say no living man can kill" feel less arbitrary. And I think it will make Eowyn's accomplishment that much more satisfying.

"...not till now have I understood the tale of your people and their fall. As wicked fools I scorned them, but I pity them at last. For if this is indeed, as the Eldar say, the gift of the One to Men, it is bitter to receive." -Arwen


sam90
Lorien

May 1 2013, 6:58pm

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I don't have a problem per se with changes. The tombs look interesting enough, and I'm actually pretty excited to see the scene (all finished an complete). My problem, though, is when Jackson and the others keep pretending that this stuff is from Tolkien. It's not. But of course, it's all PR and blaming Tolkien for all this gets people to accept it. I've read other forums and people genuinely think the added bits are Tolkien's intent. Too bad really. Just call it an adaptation and be done with it



When a third film was announced filling parts of the trilogy by drawing mostly stuffs from the appendices that was to be expected. There is going to be lots of interpretations of what Tolkien did writted on the appendices of LOTR. I know some people don't like when I use this term but to me it's like a professional ''fanfiction''. It is their visions of what events on the appendices might have been and might look like. Some concepts are simply not from Tolkien's work at all. So it became an artistic creation, inspired from the books or elsewhere. It's a professional fanfiction. Smile


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