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IdrilofGondolin
Rohan
Apr 21 2013, 8:54pm
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Will Bilbo Reveal the Ring to the Dwarves?
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I was just posting over at the "Bilbo Kills an Orc" thread and this question struck me. When the spiders attack the company Bilbo eventually has to put the ring on and in doing so has to tell the dwarves about it. So Gloin knows about the ring and what it can do. If he does then his and Gimli's lack of knowledge of the ring at the movie Council of Elrond is inexplicable. So how will PJ solve this problem?
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Brethil
Half-elven
Apr 21 2013, 9:00pm
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Invisibility was not the One's primary power
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I was just posting over at the "Bilbo Kills an Orc" thread and this question struck me. When the spiders attack the company Bilbo eventually has to put the ring on and in doing so has to tell the dwarves about it. So Gloin knows about the ring and what it can do. If he does then his and Gimli's lack of knowledge of the ring at the movie Council of Elrond is inexplicable. So how will PJ solve this problem?
So the logical link between a ring that made you invisible and the One isn't necessarily clear, so my feeling is that Gimli's surprise at the Council of Elrond is appropriate. Even Gandalf doesn't connect the dots for many decades.
Manwe, when asked a simple "Yes" or "No" question, contemplated, and responded "the middle one."
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Eleniel
Tol Eressea
Apr 21 2013, 9:19pm
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We know that the spider rescue has been changed for the film...
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in that Legolas & Co apparently help the Dwarves escape from the spiders, so it could well be that Bilbo won't have to reveal he has a magic ring at that point...
"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
¯ Victoria Monfort
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sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea
Apr 22 2013, 1:30pm
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Do we know that the elves help the dwarves and Bilbo with the spider fight?
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Or do we just know that they fight spiders, and maybe it's a completely seperate fight?
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Oscarilbo
Lorien
Apr 22 2013, 7:57pm
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Nor Gloin, nor the rest of the dwarfs knows that one is the ONE RING to rule them all. They just know it's a magic ring and that's all. Even more, nor Gimli nor Gloin have a reason to believe the ring Frodo put in the center is the same Bilbo had.
"The World is Changed, I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air"
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