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Bilbo kills an Orc

Smeagol Bagginsess
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Apr 21 2013, 6:43pm


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I was pissed off by that a lot.

I know it doesn't look special to many, but imo Sting plays a very special role in TH and LOTR. And the very reason Bilbo names it "Sting" is because the first thing he kills with it is a spider. I was actually surprised seeing Bilbo kill a warg and then an orc in the climax, remembering the scene from Rivendell where Balin says "swords are named .." bit.

In short, imo Bilbo killing a warg + orc is completely out of sync of what he would do in Mirkwood. And a lot of the emotional connection with Sting, I think, is lost with this.

Besides that, how can someone who is handling a sword for the first time kill a well-built full grown orc? And so easily? I think that makes no sense at all.

I am the Grandson of Samwise Gamgee. My grandpa loved Frodo uncle and Frodo uncle loved his pet, Smeagol. So I am named Smeagol Bagginsess! Ain't I cute?

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Bilbo kills an Orc Smeagol Bagginsess Send a private message to Smeagol Bagginsess Apr 21 2013, 6:43pm
    Yup, action takes priority over story QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Apr 21 2013, 7:09pm
    Yes, should he not have named his sword "Baby Orcrist"? Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Apr 21 2013, 7:37pm
    To be honest, the entire scene bugs me. Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Apr 21 2013, 8:05pm
    I don't mind it LordotRings93 Send a private message to LordotRings93 Apr 21 2013, 8:13pm
        They could have shown Bilbo's growing heroism without his killing anything... Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Apr 21 2013, 8:30pm
    One of My Favorite Scenes IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Apr 21 2013, 8:49pm
        How's it going to make the spiders-scene more believabele? Smeagol Bagginsess Send a private message to Smeagol Bagginsess Apr 21 2013, 9:04pm
            Because this scene shows Bilbo can IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Apr 21 2013, 9:45pm
                So ... Smeagol Bagginsess Send a private message to Smeagol Bagginsess Apr 22 2013, 3:12am
            Bilbo is visible when he kills his first spider. dernwyn Send a private message to dernwyn Apr 21 2013, 10:57pm
                A bit wrong there. Smeagol Bagginsess Send a private message to Smeagol Bagginsess Apr 22 2013, 3:16am
        Agreed. This emre43 Send a private message to emre43 Apr 22 2013, 7:17am
            I agree with this as well Neimod Send a private message to Neimod Apr 22 2013, 12:06pm
    I didn't mind it TheSexyBeard Send a private message to TheSexyBeard Apr 21 2013, 9:05pm
        Sting! Sting! Smeagol Bagginsess Send a private message to Smeagol Bagginsess Apr 21 2013, 9:09pm
    Gotta agree with others here-- sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Apr 21 2013, 9:26pm
    Hmmmm The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King Apr 21 2013, 9:49pm
        Alas IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Apr 21 2013, 10:16pm
        who's to say Bilbo will even be in the spider scene... Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Apr 22 2013, 12:08am
            Ugh... Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Apr 22 2013, 12:44am
                I hope they at least have Bilbo Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Apr 22 2013, 1:03am
                    There is the picture of Bilbo holding Sting, covered in webs jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Apr 22 2013, 2:01am
                        I've seen that photo... Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Apr 22 2013, 6:32pm
                    Yeah, but nothing in LotR... Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Apr 22 2013, 2:04am
                        Worst PJ crime Smeagol Bagginsess Send a private message to Smeagol Bagginsess Apr 22 2013, 2:57am
                            Faramir isn't the main character of the story. Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Apr 22 2013, 3:15am
                                I know Faramir isn't the main character... Smeagol Bagginsess Send a private message to Smeagol Bagginsess Apr 22 2013, 3:19am
    The Book is different from the Movie, get over it StoneHex104 Send a private message to StoneHex104 Apr 21 2013, 11:45pm
    i see your point...regarding "Bilbo: First Blood" MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Apr 22 2013, 3:30am
        I think it's actually the opposite. Smeagol Bagginsess Send a private message to Smeagol Bagginsess Apr 22 2013, 3:33am
            well yeah i see your point MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Apr 22 2013, 5:30am
    Naming of Sting Fredeghar Wayfarer Send a private message to Fredeghar Wayfarer Apr 22 2013, 5:50am
        i agree MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Apr 22 2013, 6:22am
        Maybe he feels most renowned for killing a big,gigantic,ferocious spider. Thorins_apprentice Send a private message to Thorins_apprentice Apr 22 2013, 7:09am
    In the book... Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Apr 22 2013, 7:03am
    Poor Bilbo Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Apr 22 2013, 4:50pm
    well... Oscarilbo Send a private message to Oscarilbo Apr 22 2013, 7:49pm
    The Mirkwood LEGO set comes with Legolas and Tauriel thorinoakenshield Send a private message to thorinoakenshield Apr 22 2013, 8:34pm
        which is what I fear... Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Apr 23 2013, 12:52am
            There's just so much... Aragorn the Elfstone Send a private message to Aragorn the Elfstone Apr 23 2013, 2:41am
                we'll just have to wait and see I guess... Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Apr 23 2013, 3:00am
                    On the topic of Elves killing spiders: Smeagol Bagginsess Send a private message to Smeagol Bagginsess Apr 23 2013, 4:51am
                        Agreed. I think that scenario is probably the best we can hope for, now... // Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Apr 23 2013, 6:49am
                Could not agree with you more :) imin Send a private message to imin Apr 23 2013, 11:20am
                    if I ever win the lottery you guys will be the first to know Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Apr 24 2013, 11:35am
                        writing the script wouldn't be overly hard Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Apr 24 2013, 12:26pm
    I completely agree Nira Send a private message to Nira Apr 23 2013, 3:48am

 
 
 

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