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TABA What if....


Apr 21 2013, 5:15pm

Post #1 of 16 (1019 views)
TABA What if.... Can't Post

What if... before the beginning of the BOFA all of the dwarves (Except Thorin obviously) yell "For Bilbo!" and the Misty Mountains theme kicks in (Epic) like in ROTK Aragorn yelled "For Frodo!"

I know that it wouldn't make sense because Aragorn was doing it for Frodo to destroy the Ring. As Bilbo just betrayed Thorin, I don't know if it would help as such. But I think that it would make an epic introduction from the dwarves into the battle.


Apr 21 2013, 5:28pm

Post #2 of 16 (493 views)
Only if... [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo gets conked on the head in front of them all!

Grey Havens

Apr 21 2013, 5:29pm

Post #3 of 16 (483 views)
Nah, [In reply to] Can't Post

too much of a cliché to be done twice in the same series IMOSmile

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Apr 21 2013, 5:38pm

Post #4 of 16 (453 views)
Unlikely, I'd say.... [In reply to] Can't Post

...because whatever it is they're fighting for, it certainly isn't Bilbo.. 'For treasure!' 'For the mountain!' 'Oh no, the Orcs are coming!' ... 'For Thorin!' is a possibility. But I'd say it's more likely they won't shout anything at all, just get on with the battle.


Apr 21 2013, 5:39pm

Post #5 of 16 (445 views)
Well... [In reply to] Can't Post

When that wall calls down, I'd love to hear a brief silence, a cry of 'Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-menu' and, as the Dwarves charge out, the grandest statement of the 'Misty Mountains' theme with a portion of the lyrics sang in Khuzdul by a male choir (sort of mirroring 'For Frodo!' in that it's the only time Shore used a choral rendition of the 'Fellowship' theme). That would be truly epic. I don't really see how 'For Bilbo' could make sense, and as others have said it would be far too similar.

(This post was edited by Shagrat on Apr 21 2013, 5:40pm)


Apr 21 2013, 5:48pm

Post #6 of 16 (443 views)
For Narnia and for Aslan!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Oops, wrong franchise.

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Apr 21 2013, 5:51pm

Post #7 of 16 (472 views)
Given how AUJ ripped off LotR every 5 seconds... [In reply to] Can't Post

I wouldn't put it past PJ and Co...in fact, I'd be surprised if TABA didn't emulate the battles of the previous trilogy for the sake of more faux-Lucasian "rhyming".

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5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Apr 21 2013, 5:53pm

Post #8 of 16 (441 views)
no. [In reply to] Can't Post

Makes no sense.

if anyone they wouuld be shouting for Thorin. their "new" king.

Smeagol Bagginsess

Apr 21 2013, 6:01pm

Post #9 of 16 (422 views)
That would really fit well... [In reply to] Can't Post

... if Bilbo hits Thorin on his head by the Arkenstone before he takes his leave for good.


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Apr 21 2013, 6:23pm

Post #10 of 16 (379 views)
Uhhh no.... [In reply to] Can't Post

Kinda sounds out of place. The BOFA isn't being fought for Bilbo, so it'd be odd seeing the dwarves yell "For Bilbo". Although I do hope that MM theme is used in some form or another during the battle. Always gives me goosebumps.

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Apr 21 2013, 6:29pm

Post #11 of 16 (380 views)
That would be too much of a rip-off... [In reply to] Can't Post

...But I do hope we see Dain and his Dwarfs riding into battle, bagpipes playing, shouting "Baruk Khazad, Khazad Ai Menu!"

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Apr 21 2013, 8:41pm

Post #12 of 16 (319 views)
That would be ridiculous [In reply to] Can't Post



Apr 21 2013, 10:49pm

Post #13 of 16 (249 views)
Nope. [In reply to] Can't Post


Tol Eressea

Apr 21 2013, 11:17pm

Post #14 of 16 (247 views)
eh? [In reply to] Can't Post

and why would they shout for Bilbo? Aragorn said; "for Frodo", he did not shout it btw. Aragorn said it because at the time he thought Frodo was dead. You are mixing apples and oranges here pal, there would be no point for the dwarves to shout for Bilbo.

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Apr 22 2013, 1:01am

Post #15 of 16 (251 views)
overused the misty mountains theme [In reply to] Can't Post

they used it what, 4 times (the singing, 2 "charges" and 1 landscape sequence) in The Hobbit? Shore should have some other themes by then.

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Apr 22 2013, 7:13am

Post #16 of 16 (194 views)
No way should this happen [In reply to] Can't Post

It is unique to Aragorn and Frodo's situation. For what reason exactly would they be shouting "For Bilbo" exactly?


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