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If everyone had a Silmaril

Brethil
Half-elven


Apr 19 2013, 11:11pm


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As for the joys (or not) of possessing the Silmarils, my longish post to the last thread probably should have waited for this one




What if Aule manufactured a thousand Silmarils after they were stolen? That would make Morgoth's useless. Would he have still wanted them for their own beauty, or thrown them away in disgust? He could no longer hurt others by possessing them, so what would be the point in keeping them? - CuriousG

I think you have something important here, CG. I think if they weren't 'singular' and thus so coveted by those that he wished to impact, he wouldn't want them, and would seek another way. So yes, the Jewels, for what they are, remain attractive - but that's a great yardstick for assessing what his motive is, because without that uniqueness and the amount of pain their withholding causes I think the appeal would diminish.

Per Morgoth feeling depressed and unhappy: I am sure there is some gloating, but when you read the description of Morgoth's constant burning pain, his anger and his weariness about it all - it does sound pretty grim and unhappy. Even naming himself King of the World is so empty, as he isn't, and knows it.

Hell hath no fury like a Dragon who is missing a cup.

Subject User Time
**Silmarillion Discussion 2013, Part 2 of Chapter 9: Of The Flight of the Noldor noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 19 2013, 9:51am
    My thoughts Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Apr 19 2013, 2:16pm
        I agree about the Ring Finwe Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 19 2013, 2:39pm
            Unstoppable eater versus impossible meal! noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 19 2013, 3:43pm
                Ungoliant vs a VERY hot Sacred pepper Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 19 2013, 5:41pm
                They'd have consumed her Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Apr 19 2013, 7:24pm
                how to eat holy light Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 21 2013, 4:06pm
                    Logically the hallowing by Varda is the difference...is that enough? Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 21 2013, 4:20pm
            but something does happen to the One Ring... telain Send a private message to telain Apr 19 2013, 11:10pm
                That's a good point Telain; I do have an idea... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 20 2013, 3:22am
                    sense has been made! telain Send a private message to telain Apr 20 2013, 5:19pm
                        Stones vs Rings CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 20 2013, 5:41pm
                            i like the casting of your words Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 21 2013, 4:34pm
                                “The awful thing... sador Send a private message to sador Apr 21 2013, 4:52pm
                                    hah! great quote, sador // Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 21 2013, 5:00pm
                        Rings of gold vs Rings of light... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 20 2013, 7:21pm
                        if the silmarils did have agency... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 21 2013, 4:20pm
                            A bit of "Magical realism" here? noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 21 2013, 5:27pm
                                now you're invoking wardrobes? Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 21 2013, 5:50pm
                                    I was wondering... noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 21 2013, 5:56pm
                                        hah!!! Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 21 2013, 6:05pm
                                            Live from inside the wardrobe of magic realism... noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 21 2013, 7:23pm
                                                I'd see a gastroenterologist about that diaresis, if I were you CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 21 2013, 11:06pm
                                                    Diaresis by any other name... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 22 2013, 1:50am
                                                        manwe is not binary // Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 22 2013, 2:04am
                                        Oh, where has Emily disappeared to now? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 21 2013, 11:26pm
                                            'tis poetry! Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 22 2013, 1:12am
                                            See Emily Play - oh wait, she's invisible! noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 22 2013, 8:56am
                                                Free games for May. sador Send a private message to sador Apr 22 2013, 10:57am
                                                I think "magical realism" makes it "acceptable literature" CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 22 2013, 4:49pm
                                                    Yes, clearly from Terry Pratchett's comment there's a feeling its snobbery at work // noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 22 2013, 4:52pm
        I can only echo Finwe's thoughts CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 19 2013, 10:49pm
            If everyone had a Silmaril Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 19 2013, 11:11pm
    Another awesome discussion post NoWiz! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 19 2013, 2:23pm
        nice descriptions, brethil.... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 21 2013, 3:58pm
    The Quarrel of the Theives! sador Send a private message to sador Apr 21 2013, 10:42am
    maciliel-thoughts Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 21 2013, 1:42pm
        This is great CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 21 2013, 2:04pm
            ah, thanks so much, curiousg Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 21 2013, 2:17pm
                Festering competitiveness too noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 21 2013, 4:21pm

 
 
 

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