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sometimes feanor repels, sometimes he draws you in

Maciliel
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Apr 19 2013, 10:52pm


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and mind... this is all before the kinslaying, and before he dooms his own children (all of them) to pursue a cause he knows they cannot win and that will only bring death, and ruin, and heartache for all.

but... at that moment, before all of that, and despite anything that had transpired before, when he hears the news that his father is dead, and runs off into the night, my heart does certainly crumble for him. i absolutely do believe he loves his father deeply. many perpetually angry and controlling people do love others. in that instant, as he is streaking off in the blue-black haze of whatever light is sprinkling down to valinor from the stars, i see him as a small child, utterly alone, utterly lost.


peace, feanor --

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aka. fili orc-enshield
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the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."

this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel

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**Silmarillion Discussion 2013, Chapter 9: Of The Flight of the Noldor noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 16 2013, 12:02pm
    My thoughts Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Apr 16 2013, 2:50pm
    Of the Flight of the Condor CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 17 2013, 1:00am
    shall reply in detail later... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 17 2013, 2:15am
        "Greatest" has many definitions, I think CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 17 2013, 2:54am
            Just to provide another example Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Apr 17 2013, 3:09am
                Why does Manwe not speak? noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 17 2013, 8:15pm
                    Great question Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Apr 17 2013, 8:45pm
                        Sounds intriguing! noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 17 2013, 9:12pm
                        Thou art as cryptic as Mandos. // CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 17 2013, 9:47pm
                            Don't get your hopes up Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Apr 17 2013, 11:31pm
                I always think that about Jordan CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 17 2013, 9:42pm
                    Me too Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Apr 17 2013, 11:33pm
            A thought on Nienna and Melkor as counterparts... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 17 2013, 9:54pm
                So what you're saying is, you really like bad boys like Melkor CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 18 2013, 1:16am
                    Well, we all know about my weakness for ponies and bad boys, especially Dwarven kings... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 18 2013, 1:48am
                "Melkorina" returns! noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 18 2013, 6:28am
                    Yes, I remember that, and I like Squire's point about Nienna Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 18 2013, 11:10am
                        I think you're right - they're poles apart noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 18 2013, 11:30am
                        poetically... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 18 2013, 11:35am
                            Poetically and practically in Nienna's case Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 18 2013, 5:46pm
        Gifted can describe many things Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Apr 17 2013, 3:05am
    Of the Flight of the Noldor - great lead-in NoWiz!!!! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 17 2013, 9:23pm
        Grace, Free Will, and Fall CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 17 2013, 9:57pm
            Synchronized scene. So true. Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 17 2013, 10:12pm
                Zoom in/Zoom out Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Apr 18 2013, 12:57am
                    Absolutely. I think in reads prior I was missing this, Finwe Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 18 2013, 1:23am
                        Feanor's hesitation noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 18 2013, 12:35pm
                            I think so Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Apr 18 2013, 1:43pm
                                Whoops Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Apr 18 2013, 1:48pm
                            I feel like he is running the scenario through his mind... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 18 2013, 4:18pm
    Answers first sador Send a private message to sador Apr 18 2013, 2:44pm
        "Oddly enough, it is the Enemy who deigns to think of such lowly beings."- Striking statement! noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 18 2013, 4:18pm
            It is a strikingly true statement Sador... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 18 2013, 4:54pm
                It probably also answers my earlier question about why Manwe does not see the need for a good speech.// noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 18 2013, 5:08pm
                    True, NoWiz. Very possibly why he is so terse and cryptic... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 18 2013, 5:56pm
    A service announcement... noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 18 2013, 7:26pm
    Of the Night of the Flounder? telain Send a private message to telain Apr 18 2013, 7:51pm
        I agree with your take on the Silmarils, Telain (and other things) Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 18 2013, 8:08pm
            on Silmarils and souvenirs... telain Send a private message to telain Apr 19 2013, 2:04am
                Possession CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 19 2013, 2:39am
                    "place" matters -- even on vacation telain Send a private message to telain Apr 20 2013, 5:34pm
        Ring of Doom Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Apr 18 2013, 8:13pm
            Honestly, it always sounds corny to me. CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 18 2013, 10:25pm
                well, tolkien's first choice Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 18 2013, 10:52pm
                    He could have called it CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 18 2013, 11:23pm
                    logistical problems with "Ring of Mood" telain Send a private message to telain Apr 19 2013, 2:18am
                        If Doom = Fate, and Fate = Fortune, how about Wheel of Fortune? // CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 19 2013, 2:40am
                            yes!// telain Send a private message to telain Apr 19 2013, 12:09pm
    maciliel-thoughts Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 19 2013, 3:24am
        Vaire as a scribe and back-door narrator Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 19 2013, 8:15pm
            ha! : ) Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 19 2013, 9:23pm
            also, thank you Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 19 2013, 9:36pm
                Glad to have the chance to read your ideas! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 19 2013, 10:28pm
                    my tone in my post Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 19 2013, 10:39pm
                        I think a hobbit burglar your Morgoth's Ring. They steal stuff like that. Thieves! // CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 20 2013, 12:09am
                        It's a harrrumphy topic....! But to clarify my parental view: Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 20 2013, 12:38am
                            maybe your books and my books Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 20 2013, 12:43am
                                And surely our books rode away on ponies, no less...! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 20 2013, 12:49am
                            yes, i'm understanding you much better now... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 20 2013, 1:01am
                                Analyzing Feanor.....!!!! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 20 2013, 2:14am
        Yes, I also think it's odd that Tolkien praises Feanor for loving his dad so much. CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Apr 19 2013, 10:29pm
            His love for Finwe adds to tragedy Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 19 2013, 10:32pm
                sometimes feanor repels, sometimes he draws you in Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 19 2013, 10:52pm
                    Broken Feanor Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 19 2013, 11:48pm
                        ah, thanks, b// Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 20 2013, 1:02am
            of what is feanor an amalgam? Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 19 2013, 10:44pm
        Some responses sador Send a private message to sador Apr 21 2013, 6:39am
            some responses... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 21 2013, 1:00pm
                Loss among the Firstborn, particularly Feanor Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 21 2013, 1:24pm
                    heya, brethil... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 21 2013, 2:00pm
    I've started threads for the rest of this chapter noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 19 2013, 10:03am

 
 
 

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