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Anyone know what this symbol is?

smd9
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Apr 19 2013, 2:48pm

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Anyone know what this symbol is? Can't Post

See attachment.

I kept seeing it in the special features for The Lord of the Rings (either in the background or on people clothes etc.) but I've never seen it before.

Can anyone tell me what it is? Thanks.


(This post was edited by smd9 on Apr 19 2013, 2:49pm)
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Otaku-sempai
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Apr 19 2013, 3:06pm

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Easy-peasy! [In reply to] Can't Post

Perhaps it it a bit too highly stylized for you to realize it, but the symbol is the Eye of Sauron.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


smd9
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Apr 19 2013, 3:17pm

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Ah. Thanks. [In reply to] Can't Post

Interesting. That was the only parallel I could find, but it looked so different than what was in the films that I thought it might be something else.

So where is that design from? It looked like an "official" design since it kept showing up in the special features.


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Apr 19 2013, 3:41pm

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That, I cannot say for certain... [In reply to] Can't Post


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Interesting. That was the only parallel I could find, but it looked so different than what was in the films that I thought it might be something else.

So where is that design from? It looked like an "official" design since it kept showing up in the special features.



The symbol, as it appears in your attachment, is not in my edition of the book trilogy. The graphic may even be from WETA.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Luinnár
Rivendell

Apr 19 2013, 3:55pm

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I can't be sure. [In reply to] Can't Post

I think it was on the easterling's flags in ROTK.


Magpie
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Apr 19 2013, 5:06pm

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Weta has pins with this design [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.wetanz.com/...d-eye-of-sauron-pin/


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Magpie
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Apr 19 2013, 5:08pm

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from what I can find, they had a snake on a red background for their banner // [In reply to] Can't Post

although it kind of shows up in screenshots from the movie, it's easier to see it here:
http://www.figurerealm.com/...figure.php?FID=25723


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Luinnár
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Apr 19 2013, 5:40pm

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I remember seeing it in a book about the props. [In reply to] Can't Post

It was on some banner in red and black. I will need to check tonight.


DanielLB
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Apr 19 2013, 6:15pm

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You can see it very faintly on these banners [In reply to] Can't Post

Link, most noticeable on the right hand flag. You can definitely make out the eye and brow.


Magpie
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Apr 19 2013, 7:32pm

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are those easterlings? [In reply to] Can't Post

I can't make out that image very well but I don't see Easterlings.


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DanielLB
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Apr 19 2013, 7:41pm

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No, I don't think so. [In reply to] Can't Post

In the film at least, I think it is strongly implied that only Orcs are present during this battle sequence. I see no Easterlings.


Magpie
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Apr 19 2013, 7:45pm

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yeah, ... [In reply to] Can't Post

I was addressing Luinnár's memory of the eye being on the Easterling's flag and I don't think it is on the Easterling flag.

But perhaps this is what Luinnár was thinking of.


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smd9
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Apr 19 2013, 9:38pm

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Thanks [In reply to] Can't Post

Awesome. Thanks for the clarification.

Yeah I was wondering if it might be something for Weta because it was usually the Weta guys who were wearing the symbol, but when I searched for a Weta symbol all I got was the insect.


Magpie
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Apr 19 2013, 10:26pm

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that's where being a research guru helps [In reply to] Can't Post

it's all the search terms. I did: Weta eye of sauron

of course, you hadn't recognized it as the eye of sauron so that wasn't quite an option for you. :-)

I recognized it primarily because my Aussie TORn-friend, Elven, sent me a Weta Eye of Sauron pin as a gift. How awesome is that?


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Guillaume
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Apr 19 2013, 10:39pm

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Fellowship Prologue... [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2045539

We see the Eye of Sauron on the banners of the Mordor orcs in the Fellowship prologue... I don't remember if it is in the movie but it is in a trailer I have once seen at least...

Why do the white gulls call?


Moahunter
Rohan


Apr 19 2013, 10:44pm

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Its explained on the Weta cave page (above). [In reply to] Can't Post

"Designed by John Howe for Weta Workshop's crew clothing, the Red Eye of Sauron became an unofficial emblem for Weta during the filming of the trilogy. When in need of a Weta technician, the film crew and cast would look for the symbol of the Red Eye."
Similar pins were given to Embassy Theatre refurbishment donors.


Guillaume
The Shire

Apr 19 2013, 10:51pm

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The strange thing... [In reply to] Can't Post

...is that they seem to be uruk-hai and we see a similar scene in TTT when Theoden quotes: Where are the horse and the rider? But why would they bear the Red Eye banner? I'm pretty sure the TTT scene shows the uruk-hai with the White Hand banners and long black spears.

(This reply in reference to the screencap in my previous post)



Why do the white gulls call?

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DanielLB
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Apr 20 2013, 10:02am

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The scene isn't in the films or the EEs [In reply to] Can't Post

So I wouldn't worry that it's being held by Uruk-hai. Wink


Guillaume
The Shire

Apr 20 2013, 11:14am

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Thought so! [In reply to] Can't Post

It is nonetheless very clear that it is the symbol we are looking for :P In regard to the other replies I am pretty sure there were only Orcs at the Battle of the Black Gates, the remaining Easterlings were either killed or fled from Pelennor. This orc army was the remainder of the Morgul/Mordor orcs which I find are the creepiest/most intimidating!



Why do the white gulls call?


Rostron2
Gondor


Apr 23 2013, 4:53pm

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Easy, it's a symbol of the Deathly Hallows *runs*// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Loresilme
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Apr 25 2013, 2:21am

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*snert* :) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

 
 

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