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Age limit of DoS & TABA

trqn13
Bree


Apr 19 2013, 12:12pm

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Age limit of DoS & TABA Can't Post

Wondering what the age restrictions will be on the Desolation of Smaug and There and back again, as An unexpected journey was 12a I imagine the others will be higher? considering AUJ didn't really have as much violence as can be expected in the BOFA and other scenes?


DeadRabbits
Lorien


Apr 19 2013, 12:49pm

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I reckon the age limit will stay the same... [In reply to] Can't Post

... considering that all the LoTR-films and AUJ all had the same rating (at least here in Sweden, rated 11). The forthcoming films will no doubt be more violent, but with the "right type" of violence (only black blood, etc), they should all be able to maintain the same rating. I think a higher age limit would be kinda devastating regarding box office figures, since children constitute a good deal of the audience. It would also be inconsistent to let young children watch the first film in a series, but not number two and three.

Now now Bill, you swore this was a battle between warriors, not a bunch of miss nancies, so warriors is what I brought


Bombadil
Half-elven


Apr 19 2013, 8:15pm

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MPAA ratings are A relic of the Past? [In reply to] Can't Post

"The current rating system emerged in 1968, when MPAA chairman Jack Valenti replaced the earlier moral censorship guidelines, known as the Hays Code, with a revolutionary new parent-focused rating system. While the Hays Code authorized a movie for distribution based on whether it was deemed “moral” according to an exhaustive list of rules, the current movie rating system was born out of the simple notion that the movie industry wouldn’t approve or disapprove what audiences should see, but instead would focus on “freeing the screen” and educating parents to help them make movie-going decisions for their family. The current Classification & Ratings Administration (CARA), with a rating board made up of an independent group of parents, gives advance cautionary warnings to families about a movie’s content. CARA’s mission is to afford parents the tools they need to make informed decisions about what their children watch."

By the time any child these days turns 10 his/her bodyCount from games,etc...Reach Millions of kills?


sycorax82
Rohan

Apr 19 2013, 8:42pm

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There's no way they won't be PG-13/12A [In reply to] Can't Post

It would be absolutely pointless to take them to a higher rating, and a commercial disaster! All for the sake of more graphic violence??


MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Apr 19 2013, 11:21pm

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it will be a PG-13, perhaps the EE's will have unrated cuts [In reply to] Can't Post

PJ and the actors have all said DOS will be much dark than AUJ, even with a PG-13 PJ can get away with a lot. I'm still shocked PJ got away with the catapulting numerous human heads into Minas Tirith! i've still never seen anything that violent in a PG-13 film since.


take me down to the woodland realm where the trees are green and the elf women are pretty....Oh will you please take me home!!


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Apr 20 2013, 10:32pm

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Yeah. That was . . . [In reply to] Can't Post

ShockedAnd yet Frodo is found still wearing pants after having been thoroughly searched by Orcs. . . there is a head scratcher. lol

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PJ and the actors have all said DOS will be much dark than AUJ, even with a PG-13 PJ can get away with a lot. I'm still shocked PJ got away with the catapulting numerous human heads into Minas Tirith! i've still never seen anything that violent in a PG-13 film since.


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Apr 20 2013, 10:45pm

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wow...just wow... [In reply to] Can't Post

lol


take me down to the woodland realm where the trees are green and the elf women are pretty....Oh will you please take me home!!


Ziggy Stardust
Gondor


Apr 21 2013, 1:42am

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I'm in the US [In reply to] Can't Post

Where The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey was rated PG-13. I'm sure it will have the same rating for the next two installments. There's no reason why it should go up-or down for that matter.


Rohirrim Rider
Rivendell


Apr 21 2013, 10:54am

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It'll be a 12A [In reply to] Can't Post

There's no way Warners will allow a family franchise to go to a 15.Plus I doubt there will be anything worse in them than what was depicted in The Two Towers and Return of the King. AUJ featured a good few beheadings and suchlike, as well as that headbutt - which not only gave the film a 12A but the trailer too (the BBFC are very cautious about headbutts).


Rohirrim Rider
Rivendell


Apr 21 2013, 10:59am

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An interesting note about these films and the 12A certificate - [In reply to] Can't Post

Did you know that The Two Towers was instrumental in getting the certificate introduced? Everyone assumes it was the fuss over Spider-Man being a 12 (and so kids couldn't see it) but plans were in place long before that. The studio approached the BBFC early in the year with footage, discussing their worries that a PG franchise would be about to rule out kids following it thanks to Helm's Deep and the battle violence and what could be done as cutting it would lose the impact (plus the fact that they thought children around the age of 10/11 would be able to handle it within that context). The BBFC listened, discussed, researched and so forth, and thus the 12A was later born (on September 6th 2002, to be precise with The Bourne Identity being the first release classified as such).

Now, what I can't say was whether or not the 12A or something similar was in discussion before then. All I know is that the fears of the 12 certificate on Two Towers played a huge role in getting it instigated.


(This post was edited by Rohirrim Rider on Apr 21 2013, 11:00am)


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Apr 21 2013, 5:02pm

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Lol. I am serious though! Heads over ramparts is okay, but a half glimpse of Frodo's hindparts [In reply to] Can't Post

is too edgy??? Damned foolishness. I can understand not going whole hog frontal naked nudity, sure. . . but there is no good reason that Frodo should not have been about as well/poorly clothed as Gollum when he is found as a well searched prisoner of the orcs. The Great Goblin said search every crack and crevice, and the orcs don't seem like the types to have shyed away from the job for modesty.

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lol


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


trqn13
Bree


Apr 21 2013, 8:28pm

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otherwise................ [In reply to] Can't Post

wanting to see Frodo naked aside, I for one am expecting DoS & TABA to be really violent imagine we'll see Azog killed, the legolas thranduil tauriel orc torture scene in mirkwood and fighting spiders and Smaug death?, and taba with all those dwarves fighting in the BOFA as Gimli is portrayed as most violent in the battle of helms deep and so forth, Beorn ripping Bolg and others apart, triple death scene Thorin Fili Kili, not really under 12 year old material.


MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Apr 21 2013, 9:14pm

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guess you'll have to wait for that unrated version ;) [In reply to] Can't Post

personally i would rather see Tauriel's hindparts in the next film! i don't think that is too much to ask for!


take me down to the woodland realm where the trees are green and the elf women are pretty....Oh will you please take me home!!


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Apr 22 2013, 1:02am

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I want to see the John Boorman planned version where Galdariel is [In reply to] Can't Post

worshipped by Frodo. . . in THAT way. lol. And I would rather have seen Arwen's, but my complaint is less a cry for skin for its own sake than a disgusted admonishon and scorning of the fact that catapulting heads is somehow more acceptable than a bit of entirely proper contextual ass cheek. A person who has been brutally interrogated and assiduously searched by orcs is NOT going to be chilling in his trousers.

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personally i would rather see Tauriel's hindparts in the next film! i don't think that is too much to ask for!


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Apr 22 2013, 1:25am

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hopefully they'll make up for it with Tauriel! [In reply to] Can't Post

 


take me down to the woodland realm where the trees are green and the elf women are pretty....Oh will you please take me home!!


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Apr 22 2013, 2:06am

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lol [In reply to] Can't Post

WinkIn that steamy, Game of Thrones Quality extended scene with Kili. ShockedSly

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"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."


MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Apr 22 2013, 3:26am

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Hear! Hear! [In reply to] Can't Post

Wink


take me down to the woodland realm where the trees are green and the elf women are pretty....Oh will you please take me home!!


AinurOlorin
Half-elven


Apr 23 2013, 4:04am

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Winning! [In reply to] Can't Post

Cool

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"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."

 
 

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