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Influence of HD and Blu-ray?


Apr 6 2013, 11:25pm

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If you watch the LOTR on blu-ray on a biggish full HD screen (42", standard domestic large ), the HD does make the minatures, models and matte screens look fake. In fact when LOTR as released there weren't even HD screens in cinemas. let alone at home, forget 48FPs, I am talking what is now standard HD.

Modern CGi, good well done CGI, I would add, looks far crisper, and less fake on a decent sized domestic HD TV than many pre-HD SFX and that does include LOTR. CGi, is just another way to create a set, and all sets are fake.


Azog has heft and presence, in my opinion, and the fact that you can see he's CGI is no different than seeing that other orcs have masks

Exactly. I would also add, that it's interesting that few if any, are criticising the use of CGI to create Gollum, motion or performance capture as Serkis prefers to call it, uses CGI to give Gollum his appearance, the same technology was used to create Azog.

I know we rebel against CGI, but I have to think that's because we are attached to what came before

Often that was bad acting, an awful lot of CGI based films fail because the performers come from a movie background where sets can be interacted with as they are tangible. Whereas in CGI the sets are not even present when the actor performs, which requires different skills from a thesbian perpective. Check out the wikipedia entries for the Hobbit actors, especially the dwarves and you will see most, if not all have professional shakespearean stage experience, and a lot of Shakespeare is performed with minimal sets, and few props, plays where actors have to imagine the battle going on behind them and convince the audience that it is too, not too dissimilar to acting for CGI.

Lucas, bless his cotton socks, has never been a director interested in acting, of getting the performance from his cast, he's far too interested in the scenery to be distracted by such things, unfortunately as the Star Wars prequels proved, this approach does distract the audience especially when such a quality cast looks so wooden. PJ on the other hand appears to take the other approach, CGi is just another way of creating a set, another world upon which the actors most importantly have to perform and become their characters

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When George Lucas visited LotR set... 6ryph3n Send a private message to 6ryph3n Mar 23 2013, 8:37pm
    I remember something like that from the extras zarabia Send a private message to zarabia Mar 24 2013, 2:16am
    Pre viz paperC Send a private message to paperC Mar 24 2013, 12:42pm
        CGI vs physical 6ryph3n Send a private message to 6ryph3n Mar 24 2013, 4:19pm
            Completely agree Misto Send a private message to Misto Mar 24 2013, 4:42pm
            Sold out? Osskil Send a private message to Osskil Mar 30 2013, 11:20pm
                ... 6ryph3n Send a private message to 6ryph3n Mar 31 2013, 4:15am
                Influence of HD and Blu-ray? glor Send a private message to glor Apr 6 2013, 11:25pm
    Re: Runk Snusgrop Send a private message to Runk Snusgrop Mar 24 2013, 5:46pm
        Re: 6ryph3n Send a private message to 6ryph3n Mar 24 2013, 6:36pm
            I think their reasoning goes.... Spaldron Send a private message to Spaldron Mar 25 2013, 7:18pm
    There were enough physical sets in AUJ sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Mar 27 2013, 1:18am
    I don't think I will ever LOVE the Hobbit... Avnar Send a private message to Avnar Mar 29 2013, 10:31pm


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