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Interview with Manu Bennett
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axecrazy
Rivendell


Apr 6 2013, 11:51am

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Interview with Manu Bennett Can't Post

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv/8508352/The-fall-and-rise-of-Manu-Bennett

I stumbled across this while doing my daily Google search for Hobbit news. Bit of an eye opener for me since I knew nothing about him or Sparticus. I might check it out now. According to the reporter, the white warg's name is Athwarg. Not sure if that's right, but I guess it will work for now.


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Eleniel
Grey Havens


Apr 6 2013, 12:08pm

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Quote from the article... [In reply to] Can't Post


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Like Viggo Mortensen in The Lord of the Rings, Bennett received an eleventh-hour call from Sir Peter Jackson. It turned out the person they had originally hired to play Azog the Orc wasn't giving them the performance they wanted.

''They always thought I had the power for the role, but that this Orc needed to be eight feet tall [Bennett is only 5ft 9in].


Presumably that is referring to John Rawls? (now Yazneg)

Still doesn't explain Conan Steven's change from Azog to Bolg - and he's 7ft tall!


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tarasaurus
Rohan


Apr 6 2013, 1:56pm

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He's going to be [In reply to] Can't Post

at Chicago comic-con. Thinking about going to met him, I doubt many would recognize him as Azog. :D


LordotRings93
Rohan


Apr 6 2013, 2:25pm

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Conan Stevens [In reply to] Can't Post

Was always Bolg. He was never cast as Azog. Kinda pissed he joined The Hobbit because now he can't play Gregor Clegane on Game Of Thrones, which he was perfect in, even if he only had 1 or 2 scenes.

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Eleniel
Grey Havens


Apr 6 2013, 2:54pm

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Oh really? [In reply to] Can't Post

Perhaps we should ask the man himself...

http://www.conanstevens.com/...sons-the-hobbit.html


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Skaan
Lorien


Apr 6 2013, 3:06pm

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Wrong [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.facebook.com/notes/peter-jackson/casting-news-for-the-hobbit/10150257180211558

"Last, and certainly not least, is Conan Stevens, who will be playing an Orc called Azog"


Lusitano
Tol Eressea


Apr 6 2013, 3:11pm

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Agreed [In reply to] Can't Post

he was wonderfull as The Mountain. His replacement was nothing like the character. Unsure

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Carne
Tol Eressea

Apr 6 2013, 4:07pm

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He was probably cast as Azog before they even started filming anything. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Apr 6 2013, 6:02pm

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no he wasn't.... [In reply to] Can't Post

he was cast as gregor clegane before TH, he tried out for the role and was given the role but HBO told him they would have to replace him because of the filming schedule conflicts....So he chose TH over Game of Thrones.


take me down to the woodland realm where the trees are green and the elf women are pretty....Oh will you please take me home!!


axecrazy
Rivendell


Apr 6 2013, 6:07pm

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the white warg [In reply to] Can't Post

Having thought it over, 'Athwarg' doesn't sound right. But Athnarg just might...


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Carne
Tol Eressea

Apr 6 2013, 6:15pm

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I mean he was probably cast and switched from Azog to Bolg before filming began for TH [In reply to] Can't Post

Not Game of Thrones Smile


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MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Apr 6 2013, 6:40pm

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right [In reply to] Can't Post

he was originally Azog because there was a pic of him standing beside PJ on set, and PJ looked like a hobbit compared to the size of him! Maybe they switched roles because Azog was going to be CGI, they wanted someone who was huge and intimidating for Bolg who is not CGI.


take me down to the woodland realm where the trees are green and the elf women are pretty....Oh will you please take me home!!

(This post was edited by MouthofSauron on Apr 6 2013, 6:41pm)


TheHutt
Gondor


Apr 6 2013, 6:50pm

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Most interesting I found this passage: [In reply to] Can't Post

"Azog has really worked a treat. He's exactly where we want him, so we're going to make a lot more of him in parts two and three."

Okkkkaaaaay...?


DanielLB
Immortal


Apr 6 2013, 8:09pm

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I'm missing something. Why does it make more sense? :-S / [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Ataahua
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Apr 6 2013, 8:50pm

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Love this line: [In reply to] Can't Post

''I told my manager I was going to base Azog on a combination of Darth Vader and Jaws."

:D

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

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Ataahua
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Apr 6 2013, 8:51pm

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If the rumour is true [In reply to] Can't Post

that Azog dies in DOS, then his presence in TABA could be a flashback (a la Boromir in the ROTK EE).

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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axecrazy
Rivendell


Apr 6 2013, 8:51pm

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I don't know exactly.... [In reply to] Can't Post

But 'Athwarg' doesn't sound properly Orcish to me. Arthnarg does for some reason. It's possible the reporter just misheard the whole thing.... it was a phone interview after all. Ah, wait, I've had another look....

Quote from the article:

"if Azog could have a relationship with his ride (athwarg) - something akin to the Lone Ranger and Silver. "

It looks like a typo. Crazy It should read:

"if Azog could have a relationship with his ride (a warg) - something akin to the Lone Ranger and Silver. "

*sigh* Foiled again. Evil


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Lio
Lorien


Apr 6 2013, 9:02pm

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Aww, and here I was all excited [In reply to] Can't Post

That the White Warg actually has a name. Frown But the situation you describe sounds most likely, it's just a typo.

Still, maybe a proper name will be revealed in future movies or tie-in material? Until then, she shall remain... Cupcake! :: shot ::

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axecrazy
Rivendell


Apr 6 2013, 9:22pm

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lol [In reply to] Can't Post

Okay. Cupcake it is.... for now. What did you think of the interview and MB himself? I thought you'd go ape over this. Didn't you say in your last post something about Azog having a "sensitive side"? Crazy And here is the man himself talking about exactly that. Weird.

Actually, I decided to (finally) look at MB's imdb page. This guy is pretty cool. He started out street brawling and playing rugby at a Maori boarding school, and then decided move on to the fine arts. Sounds like a real riot. He'd fit right in at a Dwarven feast.


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Lio
Lorien


Apr 6 2013, 9:23pm

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Nice find! Some things that caught my eye [In reply to] Can't Post

First of all, additional confirmation of "a lot more of him" in the second and third movies. Woo hoo! Laugh Still, what's up with the recent rumour that he dies in DoS? Even if he does die and only appears in film three in a flashback, just how many flashback scenes would he have to have for there to be "a lot" of him?

Also interesting are the actor's comments about Azog's character. I wonder what he means that there's more to Azog than just being a typical bad guy. This didn't really show through in the first movie (except for the life-threateningly lovable pet-the-Warg moment Laugh). Then again, Azog was actually on screen for maybe ten minutes tops. With two more movies to go, I wonder how they will round out his character. Maybe some charming father/son flashbacks between him and baby Bolg?

Hmm, I can already picture it!

BOLG: Daddy! Let's defile something!

AZOG (sheds a tear): That's my son!

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Starling
Half-elven


Apr 6 2013, 9:26pm

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It's definitely a typo [In reply to] Can't Post

The article was in our newspaper weekend supplement yesterday. The sentence reads:
That included asking Jackson if Azog could have a relationship with his ride (a warg)...

Articles on Stuff aren't normally accepted unless they are full of typos. Crazy


DanielLB
Immortal


Apr 6 2013, 9:31pm

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Thanks for clearing that up! :-) [In reply to] Can't Post

I thought I was missing something and arthnarg was a Tolkien-related name for something.


Lio
Lorien


Apr 6 2013, 9:32pm

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No worries! [In reply to] Can't Post

I just made a separate post about the interview itself. Nope, there's no way I would let juicy info like that go uncommented! Tongue

Oddly enough, it hadn't occurred to me to look up more about Azog's actor before. All that sounds quite interesting, thanks! I do wonder if he also does Azog's voice?

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ByThorinsBeard
Rohan


Apr 6 2013, 9:41pm

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Thanks for posting this [In reply to] Can't Post

I love him on Arrow. I had no idea he was on Spartacus...

I wish we could actually see him as Azog rather than the CGI variant. I think that would soothe some of my grievances toward the character.

Sounds like a great guy. Thank you for posting this axecrazy.

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TariArFiniel
The Shire


Apr 6 2013, 11:28pm

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That caught my eye also. [In reply to] Can't Post

But then it's maybe just like Ataahua said: We'll see Azog in a flashback, maybe.
Or it's really just a rumor that Azog will die in the second movie..though I don't know why he would tell us such a thing on the Hobbit Con then..maybe it was just a assumption of him?

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