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Various Snippets from 'Chronicles II: Creatures and Characters' (Spoilers)

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Apr 5 2013, 1:02pm


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I know I made a separate thread about Azog and Thror, but there's also some minor comments here which may be significant:

- Joe Letteri says that Gwaihir's "role in the film demands that he carry more of a performance so we had to give him more anthropomorphic dimensions than the other Eagles. It was important that we make him, and all of our creatures, much more 'alive' and capable of performance - not just action". This does mean he'll talk after all?

- Some interesting ideas about Dwarven character arcs, possibly indicating cut footage which may feature in the EE. For example, interaction between Dwalin and Nori at Bag End. Jed Brophy says: "Nori and Dwalin have an interesting relationship. When they first meet in Bag End, Dwalin thinks he can bully him, but it doesn't work that way with Nori. They have a disagreement over a chicken that Nori tries to steal off him and from there on if Dwalin catches Nori's eye, he glares at him".

- Seeming confirmation, if it were needed, that Azog's reappearance is linked to the rise of the Necromancer. "The thought of revenge upon Thorin and the final destruction of the line of the Longbeads gnawed at Azog, but he bided his time until late in the Third Age, when the emergence of the Necromancer and the commencement of Thorin's Quest to retake Erebor saw him lead a troop of hunters in a chase across Middle-earth in pursuit of the Dwarven Company".

- It appears that Grinnah, the Goblin interrogator, was intended to have a bigger role. Its mentions that "he's nasty and takes great enjoyment in whipping Thorin, which is all build-up because in the end Kili stabs him in his guts, and that had to be earned. It had to be a 'Yeah!' moment." I wouldn't say this is the case in the current version of the film. Given that Grinnah got a figure, it seems his original role was bigger. Given that we know there will be more Goblintown in the EE, it makes sense for his role to be expanded.

- When Bombur does speak, he will do so with a Northern Irish accent (or at least attempt to!).

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Various Snippets from 'Chronicles II: Creatures and Characters' (Spoilers) Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Apr 5 2013, 1:02pm
    RE: Shagrat Ref Send a private message to Ref Apr 5 2013, 1:37pm
        Be my guest Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Apr 5 2013, 1:47pm
            RE: Shagrat Ref Send a private message to Ref Apr 5 2013, 1:52pm
    How??? How? How? How? QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Apr 5 2013, 1:51pm
        Ha ha, i've wondered this a hundred times... sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Apr 5 2013, 3:05pm
            I think they had ideas of it being 3 films for quite a long time Hamfast of Gamwich Send a private message to Hamfast of Gamwich Apr 5 2013, 3:09pm
            Or ONE QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Apr 5 2013, 3:11pm
    I really liked Grinnah Carne Send a private message to Carne Apr 5 2013, 2:06pm
        Hopefully Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Apr 5 2013, 2:08pm
    Cant' wait to get my book Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Apr 5 2013, 3:24pm
        As long as the EE footage Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Apr 5 2013, 3:31pm
            Yes and No Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Apr 5 2013, 4:11pm
    Concerning Gwaihir - wasn't the Legolas/Thranduil exchange in the DoS preview: Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Apr 5 2013, 5:17pm
        What?! Really?? Is it online anywhere? // QuackingTroll Send a private message to QuackingTroll Apr 5 2013, 5:23pm
            I'm not sure if it's online Captain Salt Send a private message to Captain Salt Apr 5 2013, 5:28pm
        Definitely "orc", and judging by the other scenes we were shown ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Apr 5 2013, 6:15pm
        Yes, I heard "orc," not "eagle," as well. // Riven Delve Send a private message to Riven Delve Apr 5 2013, 6:19pm
    Thanks Shagrat ByThorinsBeard Send a private message to ByThorinsBeard Apr 5 2013, 6:35pm
    ooohhh marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Apr 5 2013, 10:14pm
        I remember all of this happening, but didn't really register it. Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Apr 6 2013, 2:00am
    Just got my copy yesterday... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Apr 9 2013, 10:44am
        Got mine today Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Apr 9 2013, 11:48pm

 
 
 

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