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Who had the more perilous journey out of the two hobbits.?
Poll: Who had the more perilous journey out of the two hobbits.?
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Mar 29 2013, 5:53am

Post #1 of 16 (617 views)
Who had the more perilous journey out of the two hobbits.? Can't Post



Mar 29 2013, 9:17am

Post #2 of 16 (378 views)
In terms of the outcome (had either failed)... [In reply to] Can't Post

Frodo's was far more perilous. The entire future of Middle-earth rested on the Ring being destroyed (not Smaug being killed).

As I was writing this reply, I was going to say that Frodo and Sam's journey was relatively more simple than Bilbo's. But after writing down the events, I've come to the conclusion that both journeys were as dangerous as the other. Both Bilbo and Frodo got into a lot of danger:

Bilbo - trolls, Gollum, goblins, wargs (+fire), enchanting river, spiders, elves, dragon, battles ... etc.

Frodo - Ringwraiths, Old Man Willow, barrow wights, wolves/wargs, goblins/orcs, balrog, Gollum, Shelob ... etc.

I would vote "both" ... if there was a button for it. Wink

Superuser / Moderator

Mar 29 2013, 7:12pm

Post #3 of 16 (374 views)
Frodo. [In reply to] Can't Post

While both Bilbo and Frodo held the Ring, Frodo had it when Sauron was actively searching for it and the Ring had "heard its master's call". I figure that means that the Ring was more determined to exert its influence to get back to Sauron - an influence that grew stronger the closer Frodo got to Barad-dur, placing Frodo in greater danger of falling under Sauron's control.


Mar 30 2013, 10:21am

Post #4 of 16 (358 views)
Agree./ [In reply to] Can't Post



Mar 30 2013, 6:35pm

Post #5 of 16 (326 views)
No contest really [In reply to] Can't Post

Frodo's adventure was far, far more perilous. The weight of the world rested upon it, and he faced the nigh-impossible task of carrying the Ring as a burden rather than something which was fairly handy, as it was for Bilbo.

You just need to look at what is left of Frodo in comparison to Bilbo at the end of it: Frodo has been given a wound that will never fully heal, not to mention losing his finger. He realizes that "some hurts go too deep" and that "there is no going back". It effectively destroys his life in Middle-earth.


Apr 1 2013, 5:12pm

Post #6 of 16 (325 views)
Frodo [In reply to] Can't Post

Both journeys were fraught with peril, but more hinged upon the success of Frodo's journey. Also, Frodo started out his journey being actively hunted by the enemy.


Apr 3 2013, 3:31am

Post #7 of 16 (312 views)
Frodo [In reply to] Can't Post

As others have said, Frodo is actively being pursued by enemies. Plus for a great bit of his journey, it's just him, Sam, and Gollum. On the other hand, Bilbo had a whole bad of dwarves for most of his journey.

Tol Eressea

Apr 3 2013, 9:47am

Post #8 of 16 (267 views)
Frodo also [In reply to] Can't Post

barely survived a mortal wound early on in his journey.

And he didn't have the luxury of using the Ring whenever he got into a scrape.

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Apr 3 2013, 6:19pm

Post #9 of 16 (343 views)
I don't care [In reply to] Can't Post

if 'bad' is a typo, I like that group noun! 'Bad of Dwarves', like a Creak of Ents or a Glow of Elves.



Apr 4 2013, 8:11pm

Post #10 of 16 (252 views)
Aargh! [In reply to] Can't Post


I really need to start proof-reading these things before I hit "post"!

Tol Eressea

Apr 10 2013, 4:53am

Post #11 of 16 (237 views)
Bad of Dwarves [In reply to] Can't Post

ben there, typoed that....

murder of crows...
congregation of alligators...
cauldron of bats...
kettle of hawks....
sleuth of bears (Bearlock????)
a flutter of butterflies...
a clowder of cats...
a coalition of cheetahs....
a quiver of cobras...
an intrusion of cockroaches...
a consortium of crabs...
a convocation of eagles...
a business of ferrets, a skulk of foxes, a conspiracy of lemurs, a risk of lobsters, a maelstrom of salamanders, a shiver of sharks, an audience of squid, a pot of water buffalo, a tower of giraffes, a thunder of hippos, a horde of hamsters, and a cackle of hyenas...

for real... I couldn't make this stuff up...

I love a Bad of Dwarves. It is now Cannon.


Apr 17 2013, 1:44pm

Post #12 of 16 (211 views)
Frodo!! [In reply to] Can't Post



Apr 23 2013, 6:56pm

Post #13 of 16 (209 views)
Frodo [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo was in danger of being physically devoured by trolls, eagles, bears, spiders, and dragons.

Frodo, however, was in danger of having his very soul devoured by the ring.

The Shire

Apr 25 2013, 12:11pm

Post #14 of 16 (197 views)
This makes no sense!... [In reply to] Can't Post

I mean really, Bilbo had to fight trolls and dragons, while Frodo was fighting for his soul and those of all Middle-Earth! Bilbo never saw a ringwraith, or an Uruk-Hai, and he was certainly never stabbed with a Morgul Blade!

Cuwen Maegmacil

May 1 2013, 10:50pm

Post #15 of 16 (190 views)
Frodo all the way! [In reply to] Can't Post

Frodo was nearly eaten twice, had to save all of Middle-Earth, nearly lost his mind and soul to the Ring, plus a ton of other things that for the sake of time and the fact that various others have already posted I will not mention!

Bilbo's job was noble, but not nearly as difficult as Frodo's.

(This post was edited by Cuwen Maegmacil on May 1 2013, 10:52pm)

The Shire

May 2 2013, 2:58pm

Post #16 of 16 (189 views)
Heheh [In reply to] Can't Post

I think you might wanna read my post again Wink


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