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"Legend" opening beats "ROTK"

a.s.
Valinor


Dec 17 2007, 12:01pm

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"Legend" opening beats "ROTK" Can't Post

Not sure if this goes in Main, OT, or Movie, (admins feel free to move if necessary) but:


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Legend in record US chart debut

Sci-fi thriller I Am Legend, starring Will Smith, has scored a record opening at the North American box office chart.

The film, which sees Smith as the last man on Earth, brought in $76.5m (37.9m) in its first three days.

It is the best December opening of all time, beating the $72.6m (36m) start for Lord of the Rings: Return of the King in 2003.



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deej
Tol Eressea


Dec 17 2007, 12:56pm

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'Legend' might beat 'RotK' money-wise [In reply to] Can't Post

...but in 50 years I think we all know which film people will still be watching. Wink

Sincerely, deej - The Artist Formerly Known as djdeathskiss


priell3
Lorien

Dec 17 2007, 1:15pm

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And just how much... [In reply to] Can't Post

...have ticket prices risen since ROTK was released?

Did more people pay to see Legend or did they just pay MORE to see Legend?


fmaximus
Rivendell


Dec 17 2007, 1:33pm

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Definately surprise movie of the year. [In reply to] Can't Post

Both Legend and Alvin and the Chipmunks are doing very well opening weekend. Legend may have beat ROTK opening record, but when it's said and done, I somehow doubt it will make the 1 billion world wide mark that ROTK took in.


GaladrielTX
Tol Eressea


Dec 17 2007, 1:36pm

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Oh, great. And I know some of the people responsible. [In reply to] Can't Post

My company doesn't do Christmas parties. Instead, my department and my sister department opted to have a nice restaurant lunch followed by a movie this past Friday afternoon. The majority of my coworkers voted to see I Am Legend so we all had to go. (In a similar vein - har, har - last year they voted for Apocalypto. Nothing says "the holidays" like blood squirting rhythmically from some guy's head.)

Well, I did my part. I voted for The Golden Compass. Instead, there I was, watching zombies. *sigh*

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Formerly known as GaladrielTX


fmaximus
Rivendell


Dec 17 2007, 1:41pm

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And this record... [In reply to] Can't Post

will surely fall when the Hobbit comes into theaters in a couple of years. Wink
That's assuming they release it in December with PJ on board.


(This post was edited by fmaximus on Dec 17 2007, 1:43pm)


deej
Tol Eressea


Dec 17 2007, 3:14pm

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I liked 'I am Legend' [In reply to] Can't Post

It's not the best movie i've seen this year, but it was a good 'popcorn' movie and had some very creepy moments.

That doesn't mean I will be joining any 'I am Legend' fansites in the near future. Smile

Sincerely, deej - The Artist Formerly Known as djdeathskiss


Patty
Immortal


Dec 17 2007, 5:10pm

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I think the main point is... [In reply to] Can't Post

what will it's final B.O. take be? I doubt seriously it will top RotK in final worldwide B.O, Does Will Smith have as big a following on the worldwide stage? Much as I like him, I doubt that is case.

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grammaboodawg
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Dec 17 2007, 5:10pm

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I'd be more impressed with [In reply to] Can't Post

a comparison of the number of tickets sold and not the amount of money pulled in. The cost of tickets has risen a bit since 2003 ;)



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Patty
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Dec 17 2007, 5:13pm

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I also doubt it will have the repeat business... [In reply to] Can't Post

but I hope it does well. I like Will Smith a lot.

For Gondor!


BuckyUnderbelly
Lorien


Dec 17 2007, 10:09pm

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Box office records be darned! [In reply to] Can't Post

The thing about box office records (even the ones we've held so near and dear here at TORn) is that they're all built on something of a lie. Studios have fought tooth and nail for many years to prevent the industry from using a more fair comparison of a movie's popularity ... namely ... the total number of tickets sold. Not the total amount of money generated. We're talking the actual number of people who went to see the movie.

Why have they fought so hard against that? Well, because studios love to be able to crow in their ads that their movie has just broken this record or that record. It makes them seem more impressive.

But if such comparisons were based solely on a movie's actual popularity ... i.e. number of physical butts in seats ... then nobody would ever be able to break any records. Because there's just no way any modern film is ever going to top Gone With The Wind ... a film that pulled in nearly $200,000,000 ... in 1939! (And you can double that when you include international business.)

Sure, Titanic gets all the praise for being the all-time box office champ, but even that monster can't touch Gone With The Wind in terms of number of tickets sold.

Box Office Mojo allows you to rank movies by adjusted dollars (for inflation) and GWTW easily bests second place Star Wars. (http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm) But that chart doesn't tell the whole story either. It just compares the grosses dollar for dollar. It doesn't take into account the fact that movie ticket prices changed radically over time.

Back in 1939, movie tickets sold for about the same as a pack of gum. And gum was pretty cheap back then! We're talking pennies per ticket. So the math becomes truly staggering!


"In Hollywood the screenplay is a fire hydrant. And there's a line of dogs around the block." -- Frank Miller

(This post was edited by BuckyUnderbelly on Dec 17 2007, 10:11pm)


BuckyUnderbelly
Lorien


Dec 17 2007, 10:16pm

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Plus ... [In reply to] Can't Post

... We should always keep in mind that just because a movie is popular ... that doesn't necessarily mean it's good. Sometimes those two things cross paths, but not always. (Heck, Independence Day hauled in a supertanker full of cash and that movie is ... well ... more than a little stinky!)

So even in the unlikely event that I Am Legend breaks all of LOTR's records ... so what? We all know which movie is better.

Great point, deej ... which movie will people still be watching 50 years from now? I think we all know the answer to that!


"In Hollywood the screenplay is a fire hydrant. And there's a line of dogs around the block." -- Frank Miller


Patty
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Dec 18 2007, 4:20am

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Another big point that doesn't often get made is... [In reply to] Can't Post

that since the advent of DVD, many people don't go back to see a movie over and over in the theater, cause they know they've only to wait 3 or 4 months at most and they can OWN it. That's what makes ROTK's and later Pirates' boxoffice so impressive. The other movies made those amounts while staying in theaters for many more months, playing to people for whom the theater was the last chance to see the movie until it finally came to TV. RoTK's boxoffice, therefore, is an indicator of LOVE.

For Gondor!

(This post was edited by Patty on Dec 18 2007, 4:21am)


tiamy
Rivendell


Dec 18 2007, 4:57am

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I agree.. [In reply to] Can't Post

LOVE is the reason why I watch it several times in theaters 4 years ago. I grabbed the opportunity while it's still there on the big screen even though I'm short of money to spend. I'm afraid it will take so many years for me to see it again on the big screen.


BuckyUnderbelly
Lorien


Dec 18 2007, 5:07am

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Ah, sweet, sweet LOVE! [In reply to] Can't Post

You're so right about that, Patty! While I love all my DVDs ... I surely miss having the opportunity to watch these films on the big screen! They way they deserve to be seen!

I SO wish a theater in my area (NJ/NYC) would host an EE trilogy screening!


"In Hollywood the screenplay is a fire hydrant. And there's a line of dogs around the block." -- Frank Miller


Sunflower
Valinor

Dec 18 2007, 8:58am

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Ah. Apocalypto. [In reply to] Can't Post

All I can think of, Galadriel, is the "red hot chili peppers" scene in the beginning of the film. In the village, I mean. You know what I'm talking about?EvilEvil Mel Gibson's DVD commentary track over this was priceless. Esp b/c I didn't, um, completely get the full joke at first....:)

Thanks for giving that inflation dollars link Bucky. I was going to suggest that.

Also keep in mind that if today's films were kept in theaters for something longer than 4-6 weeks (AHEM) they'd make more money. All the Star Wars films were in theaters for a year in their maiden runs. Titanic made $500 million in its first 3 months and then after March Paramount/Warner's did something unheard of: they kept the film in theaters until the summer of '98. That's where the last record-setting $100 million came from.


(This post was edited by Sunflower on Dec 18 2007, 9:02am)


Patty
Immortal


Dec 18 2007, 10:25pm

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Yes, but I believe DVD has put a stop to that... [In reply to] Can't Post

I think that even if GWTW were released today it would be on DVD in no time, and wouldn't be nearly the b.o. success it was in theaters. DVD is a true force, I tell ya.

For Gondor!


N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Dec 18 2007, 11:19pm

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On the other hand, movies today open much wider... [In reply to] Can't Post

than was the case back when. Gone With the Wind wasn't playing on thousands of screens at once. Even Star Wars and E.T. played on far fewer screens than the LotR films.

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