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Recommended Middle English and Anglo-Saxon grammars?

BoromirOfWinterfell
Rohan


Mar 24 2013, 11:08am

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Recommended Middle English and Anglo-Saxon grammars? Can't Post

I've been wanting to learn more about Old and Middle English for some time, but I'm not sure which grammars are the best and most accurate. Would someone please give me a recommendation?
Thanks in advance.Smile

"Eala Earendel engla beorhtast
ofer middangeard monnum sended."

"You think you world is safe? It is an illusion. A comforting lie told to protect you. Enjoy these final moments of peace. For I have returned to have my vengeance. So, shall we begin? " - John Harrison/Khan/Sherlock/Smaug (Star Trek: Into Darkness)


Maciliel
Tol Eressea


Mar 24 2013, 12:22pm

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hi -- haven't surveyed enough of them to give a recommendation [In reply to] Can't Post

 
...but in my personal library, i have a copy of "old english and its closest relatives" (orrin w. robinson).

i cannot remember if this was a textbook (i studied linguistics, and was accepted into a phd program, but i didn't wind up going), or if this was something i just picked up myself.

i +love+ linguistics, btw. government + binding theory = fun (for me).


cheers --

.


aka. fili orc-enshield
+++++++++++++++++++
the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."

this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel


BoromirOfWinterfell
Rohan


Mar 26 2013, 6:23am

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Thanks Maciliel! [In reply to] Can't Post

Will make a note of the book. It seems its reviews are quite positive and that it is well-received.

I enjoy language in all its forms.

"Eala Earendel engla beorhtast
ofer middangeard monnum sended."

"You think you world is safe? It is an illusion. A comforting lie told to protect you. Enjoy these final moments of peace. For I have returned to have my vengeance. So, shall we begin? " - John Harrison/Khan/Sherlock/Smaug (Star Trek: Into Darkness)


Maciliel
Tol Eressea


Mar 26 2013, 11:25am

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you are most welcome [In reply to] Can't Post

 
enjoy!

cheers --


.


aka. fili orc-enshield
+++++++++++++++++++
the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."

this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel


NZ Strider
Rivendell

Apr 7 2013, 10:41am

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For Old English (i.e. Anglo-Saxon) [In reply to] Can't Post

a good starting point is Bruce Mitchell, An Invitation to Old English and Anglo-Saxon England. It is a kind introduction which gently guides you into Old English grammar and tries to get you reading and enjoying it quickly (rather than asking you to memorise several dozen paradigms before you even see a single sentence). If, however, you like paradigms, try Quirk and Wrenn, Old English Grammar. For Middle English, frankly, find a student's edition of Chaucer (i.e. one with notes for the beginner) and start reading.


BoromirOfWinterfell
Rohan


Apr 7 2013, 11:00am

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Thanks [In reply to] Can't Post

I appreciate it. I have An Old English Grammar by E.E. Wardale, but I find it difficult to understand.

"Eala Earendel engla beorhtast
ofer middangeard monnum sended."

"You think you world is safe? It is an illusion. A comforting lie told to protect you. Enjoy these final moments of peace. For I have returned to have my vengeance. So, shall we begin? " - John Harrison/Khan/Sherlock/Smaug (Star Trek: Into Darkness)

 
 

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