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Desolation of Smaug Prologue?


Mar 7 2013, 10:14am

Post #1 of 9 (942 views)
Desolation of Smaug Prologue? Can't Post

Bomby occasionally gets
"Blinding-Insights from OUR Goldberry in Valinor"

They are like Lightspeed messages that Pass
from the West into the East of YOUR
Bomby's Mind?

Everyone's Goldberry needs..YOUR..Bomby to share..

Theater goes black,
First Shot is the Marketplace in Hobbiton...
Belladonna is holding hands with a 10 year old Bilbo
(from behind)..walking and shopping..
...buying Toys from someplace
called Dale?.

..She wants him to know
that there are many very nice people over
the Misty Mountains?

"How far far away is Dale?.. Momma?"
"Never been there... but, 3 dwarves
stayed with Bungo & Momma
for 2 days...
.they needed a rest
since it was still far.. to get to
the Blue Mountains in the

One of them
carved you favorite Toy
while staying with us"
"Momma, Why there?"

"They didn't say much..Something about a Dragon?"

BabyBilbo turns around and walks right into Gandalf... about knee high.
"Why...Belladonna.. What do we have here?".

"Oh! Gandalf this is my SON....Bilbo meet Gandalf..
He is a Wizard,...he would know why
those Dwarves were...."

(Continue.. whatever your InnerGoldberry wants you to Vision?)


(This post was edited by Bombadil on Mar 7 2013, 10:18am)


Mar 7 2013, 10:45am

Post #2 of 9 (420 views)
Not sure about this... [In reply to] Can't Post

I think we're more likely to see the young Bilbo flashback in the AUJ: EE, especially as McKellen pretty much confirmed it.

I suspect it will either be the fate of Thrain (with possibly something about the rings thrown in) or the history of Beorn. The former seems more probable given that we'll surely have to see it before Gandalf's encounter with Thrain in Dol Guldur.


Mar 7 2013, 12:00pm

Post #3 of 9 (414 views)
I also suspect this in the EE... [In reply to] Can't Post

... but what a good idea.

I am afraid this scene might really put the opening hour of the movie over the top - so I would love to see it as an intro to DoS... maybe even TABA.

Riven Delve
Tol Eressea

Mar 7 2013, 12:48pm

Post #4 of 9 (362 views)
I would love to see anything with Bilbo as a boy [In reply to] Can't Post

Even younger than ten would be fine by me, because he is bound to be cute as a button. Evil

I'd like to see something--even just a glimpse--of little Bilbo that brings to mind Gandalf's words in the movie: "I remember a young hobbit who was always running off in search of Elves in the woods. He'd stay out late, come home, after dark, trailing mud and twigs and fireflies."

I would also love to meet Belladonna Took, since she apparently made an impression on Gandalf, or was great friends with him, apart from her father (Old Took).

I love your idea, Bomby! However, I have no idea when/where any of our ideas could be squeezed in in the next two movies, more's the pity.

"I left the night, with its remote and singing stars, and came in, to the glow of the fire, and the chair where he had been sitting, and the unstrung harp." --The Last Enchantment


Mar 7 2013, 1:56pm

Post #5 of 9 (361 views)
The opening hour of AUJ. [In reply to] Can't Post

In Reply To
... but what a good idea.

I am afraid this scene might really put the opening hour of the movie over the top - so I would love to see it as an intro to DoS... maybe even TABA.


Mar 7 2013, 5:22pm

Post #6 of 9 (375 views)
Beorn [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm guessing the prologue will involve Beorn's torture scene.

I think we'll see Bolg torturing Beorn, wich may explain his hate for orcs/goblins, and may be the reason on him killing Bolg at the last movie.


Mar 7 2013, 5:38pm

Post #7 of 9 (277 views)
That's what I'm thinking as well. [In reply to] Can't Post

Would make for a good reason to explain why he dislikes Orcs/Goblins so much.


Mar 8 2013, 1:37am

Post #8 of 9 (194 views)
Continuing Goldberry's Instant Message?...Dissolve to Martin/Bilbo.... [In reply to] Can't Post

From Hobbiton..

waking up on the edge of the River Anduin..
.in the Backgroung the Dwarves
are Playin,,Splashing each other,
dunking Ori! in the Water...

Re-Braiding each other's Beards and Hair..?..
while Bathing in the
Great River..

(Okay seen only from the Neck up..)
Their VAST..beards would cover
Alot of what izz?

This Version...Mirrors the Frodo Dream that..
.E/Frodo had..to open TTT...

Gandalf leans over..."Good Morning"

M/Bilbo..looks up at Gandalf says

".. is this a Dream?"

" No! but you need collect yourself soon..since
When this company is Clean...
OFF to Beorn's"

Music Swells

Movie/Montage of the Edges to the Great River with Mirkwood on their Right?


Mar 8 2013, 4:26pm

Post #9 of 9 (163 views)
Why would it be done in that order? [In reply to] Can't Post

That would be sort of confusing. We see Beorn being tortured, and then when the dwarves arrive, he's perfectly fine? I suppose you're thinking that it's more like Gollum: Give people some history of Beorn before we meet him? Maybe, but that also sort of takes all the punch out of meeting him for the first time as Bilbo, Gandalf and the others visit. I doubt that sequence is going to be as slow and gradual as written, but there has to be some sense of wonder at finding this big guy way out in the wilderness by himself. We know from the actor that some kind of scene like that exists, but you're not going to see what I think you want to see.

The whole sequence is going to be really interesting, and I expect to see some liberties taken with it by the production team. How and why Beorn doesn't like goblins and wargs can be told in other ways.


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