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N.E. Brigand
Half-elven
Mar 6, 12:32am
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Are Bifur, Bofur, and Bombur are related to Thorin in the film?
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I'm wondering about these lines:
Gandalf: "Who did you tell about your quest, beyond your kin?"
Thorin: "No one."
Since Bombur, Bofur, and Bifur know about the quest, they must be Thorin's kin!
Also, has anyone noticed that the film changes Bilbo's geneaology? We hear this:
Gandalf: "You are also a Took. Did you know that your great-great-great-great-uncle, Bullroarer Took, was so large he could ride a real horse?"
In the book, Bandobras "Bullroarer" Took was only Bilbo's great-great-great-uncle (i.e., brother of his great-great-grandfather).
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Are Bifur, Bofur, and Bombur are related to Thorin in the film?
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 6, 12:32am
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I took that line, "your kin"
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Riven Delve
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Mar 6, 12:56am
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Got this from this site
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Salmacis81
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Mar 6, 1:11am
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They are definitely not related
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Mar 6, 1:30am
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every dwarf except bifur, bofur, bomber is in some way related to thorin
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Maciliel
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Mar 6, 1:49am
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And we should trust the companion book instead of the film itself? //
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 6, 4:23am
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I think we trust them together
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Mar 6, 5:46am
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Is a film viewer who has not read that book wrong to believe they are related?
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 6, 4:36pm
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Not wrong, but most probably don't care
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Mar 6, 5:33pm
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From a screenwriter's perspective, it also could be that "kin"
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Riven Delve
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Mar 6, 5:57pm
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Kin
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arithmancer
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Mar 6, 6:41pm
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very true
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Cirashala
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Mar 6, 9:26pm
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As for Bilbo's geneaology, I doubt it matters that much. Slip of the tongue by Gandy maybe. Nitpicking, IMHO. //
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macfalk
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Mar 6, 7:41am
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"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 6, 4:55pm
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Related or not, did all the dwarves know one another before the quest?
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Riven Delve
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Mar 6, 11:59am
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How far do you want to go back?
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stoutfiles
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Mar 6, 4:31pm
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Do Gandalf and Thorin understand "your kin" to mean "all dwarves"?
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N.E. Brigand
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Mar 6, 4:45pm
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I think the genealogy change is purely a rhythm thing
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Mar 15, 4:32am
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