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Elrond's Germanic vocals at Mount Doom

The Shire

Feb 25 2013, 12:07am

Post #1 of 9 (579 views)
Elrond's Germanic vocals at Mount Doom Can't Post

When urging Isildur to "cast it into the fire" Elrond sounds like a cross between Arnie Schwarzenegger and Boris Becker. He does ,admittedly, indisputably, sound impressive and authoritative but he seems to have strangely lost this teutonic tinge to his voice three-and-a-half thousand years later...


Feb 25 2013, 1:58pm

Post #2 of 9 (395 views)
Ooops... [In reply to] Can't Post

... I watched this part only today and I can't remember recognising that. Blush

Here's a German's wild guess, though: Since it's a rather urgent command Elrond might pronounce the words separately to make sure they hit the mark. Thus it would read something like this: Cast! it! into! the! fire! While this is not the usual pronunciation in English it is the way German is being spoken and the reason why Germans speaking English tend to sound rather funny unless the speaker is both very aware of this issue and rather proficient in oral English.
So. I. guess. zat's. why. it. sounds. a. bit. like. Arnie.Tongue

The Shire

Feb 25 2013, 4:31pm

Post #3 of 9 (397 views)
subjective [In reply to] Can't Post

OK, cool, thanks for that. I personally would have liked Elrond to have cried "On me head son!" To which Isildur responds by lobbing the ring up for Elrond to head back to him. Elrond heads it back to him. Isildur takes it with his instep and does 50 keepy-uppies with it before floating it back to Elrond who overhead scissor-kicks it into the magma. Hang on though...maybe not, because then LOTR wouldn't have happened!


Feb 27 2013, 2:33pm

Post #4 of 9 (320 views)
I've always noticed that too! [In reply to] Can't Post

Especially on the word 'fire' which he gives two very distinct syllables, almost like he's saying 'fi-yar!' and rolls the r (I think). I didn't think 'Oh, Germanic!' but I've always thought his pronunciation there was interesting.

I like the scissor kick idea Tongue

"...under all there was a great joy: a fountain of mirth enough to set a kingdom laughing, were it to gush forth."


Mar 1 2013, 6:39am

Post #5 of 9 (269 views)
At that point he sounds Bostonian [In reply to] Can't Post

where "sure" becomes a distinct 2-syllable word, "shoh-yah." "Fire" works the same way here.


Mar 1 2013, 8:53pm

Post #6 of 9 (259 views)
That whole sequence [In reply to] Can't Post

Is brilliant, going back to what happened. However he said it, it explains so much. I also liked him at the battle scene in the beginning of FOTR. That was a cool sequence, and how the ring actually got 'cut from Sauron's hand' is actually quite brilliant if you think about it. You weren't going to wrestle a demigod and hold his hand down and cut the ring off. The desperation is just right.

The Shire

Mar 2 2013, 3:23am

Post #7 of 9 (262 views)
Conan 'n' the hood [In reply to] Can't Post

I have theories: Either Hugo Weaving forgot he is Australian and began thinking he was Austrian which is how he ended up sounding like Arnie or maybe he got confused and thought he was in Conan the Barbarian . Or maybe both of those things. At least he doesn't sound Irish like Russell Crowe in Robin Hood.


Mar 5 2013, 5:39pm

Post #8 of 9 (218 views)
Elrond was cool [In reply to] Can't Post

in his armour *swoon* and I liked the fact his hair was slightly blacker to show he was slightly younger being a mere 2 thousand years later.

The Shire

Mar 5 2013, 9:51pm

Post #9 of 9 (227 views)
tryin to be funny [In reply to] Can't Post

maybe the hair blackness was achieved with Grecian 2000.Wink


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