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a few thoughts

telain
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Feb 27 2013, 8:03pm


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a few thoughts [In reply to] Can't Post

first, thanks for the great post, weaver!

1. Like CuriousG, I have always liked (what I perceive to be) the sound of Alqualonde and always resisted the name Tna!

2. Reading through the previous posts, I agree that Tr na ng feels very similar to the "island boat". The Greek possibilities are Aeolia (unclear whether it is floating on water or air), and Symplegades and Planctae (in the Jason + Argonauts story.) Though, those rocks don't so much act as boats as try to sink them.

3. Though I like the idea behind sador's response (Melkor, et al would also then use it as a pathway and a route for waging war) it is Melkor's doing that causes the ice in the first place. I do think it should be a little difficult to get to and from Paradise, however...

4. Like many who have responded, I do like being near water, though I admit to liking fresh water (especially rivers) over the ocean. For most of my life I have been a rather "terrestrial" being and I especially love big hilltop/mountain vistas (whether or not I can see the Sea). I suppose that puts me in the Noldo camp!

5. Elves and longing -- I see this connection as the desire Tolkien "built" into the Elves: desiring perfection, and being less enamoured with change; wanting to create Paradise in Middle-earth and wanting it to be that way forever. It is the longing for something next to impossible that keep s them from becoming completely numb to the world as the live on yn after yn.

6. Ulmo might have used very large seashells, or enlisted the help of several sea creatures to create and propel a raft-like vessel that carried the Teleri to Aman. Perhaps this "vessel" inspired the remaining Falathrim in their nascent ship-building ventures?

Perhaps Oss said something like "Tuna is overrated, what you really want is some nice freshwater fish..."

Subject User Time
*Silmarillion Discussion: Chapter 5, "Of Eldamar and the Princes of the Eldalie", Part 1 -- Who Goes and Who Stays* weaver Send a private message to weaver Feb 21 2013, 6:03am
    Weaver! sador Send a private message to sador Feb 21 2013, 12:46pm
    Long journeys on a muddy boat elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Feb 21 2013, 7:40pm
        Sea-longing- a personal Tolkien thing? noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Feb 21 2013, 10:58pm
            Maybe an early childhood experience FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 22 2013, 10:48am
                I agree elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Feb 22 2013, 12:22pm
                    About the gulls FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 22 2013, 2:31pm
                    And welcome to the Reading Room! FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 22 2013, 3:15pm
                        Thanks for the welcome elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Feb 22 2013, 6:47pm
    Passage and memory, hope and regret, duty and love. squire Send a private message to squire Feb 22 2013, 3:36pm
        Alas for the wailing of the gulls... FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 22 2013, 5:05pm
            'In Eressea, in Elvenhome that no man can discover, Where the leaves fall not: land of my people for ever!' squire Send a private message to squire Feb 22 2013, 8:08pm
    Home sweet home CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 23 2013, 11:29pm
        Mmm, tuna... FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 24 2013, 5:12pm
    Quick answers - part II sador Send a private message to sador Feb 26 2013, 2:56pm
    Sorry I'm so late to the party Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Feb 27 2013, 7:38pm
        Good observation CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 27 2013, 7:52pm
            Perhaps even Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Feb 28 2013, 2:17pm
    a few thoughts telain Send a private message to telain Feb 27 2013, 8:03pm

 
 
 

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