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Was Saruman portrayed as too evil?

AshNazg
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Feb 23 2013, 12:56pm


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On thinking back to my first viewing I liked the subtle way that Gandalf doesn't really like Saruman in The Hobbit; perhaps because he finds him too intimidating? And I thought that was a cool way to get the audience to dislike him even before his corruption.

I then thought should the audience dislike him? Doesn't that ruin the surprise (at least for newbies) when he becomes corrupt in Lotr? Wouldn't it have been a better move to show Saruman as wise and kindly so that Gandalf's decision to visit him in LotR makes more sense?

Anyway, I remembered Gandalf's reaction to Saruman being quite subtle in The Hobbit, so on my second viewing I looked out to see if the rivalry was too apparent and I noticed something I didn't like at all. When Saruman is introduced the Mordor theme plays!

I assume this theme was supposed to be some sort of foreshadowing. But in my opinion it takes it a step too far. Is it really necessary to spell out to the audience that Saruman is going to become evil? It was a big part of LotR, people aren't going to forget!

IMO They've wasted a good chance to show another side to Saruman just so they can point out the obvious to fans and spoil LotR for newcomers.

**rant over**

Sorry! Blush


(This post was edited by AshNazg on Feb 23 2013, 12:58pm)

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Was Saruman portrayed as too evil? AshNazg Send a private message to AshNazg Feb 23 2013, 12:56pm
    Christopher's performance wasn't really striking Tigero Send a private message to Tigero Feb 23 2013, 1:42pm
        Saruman and evil billzy2 Send a private message to billzy2 Feb 24 2013, 3:14am
    Well Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Feb 23 2013, 1:55pm
        Arrogant? Yes! Evil? No! And it's his own theme ;) Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Feb 23 2013, 11:47pm
            Yes Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Feb 24 2013, 8:26am
            Agreed BalrogTrainer Send a private message to BalrogTrainer Feb 24 2013, 12:21pm
        Oh, Thank God she couldn't! Nor would she have been able to. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 25 2013, 2:36am
    You are wrong on many counts. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Feb 23 2013, 2:05pm
        Boyens described Galadriel as "the most powerful being in Middle-Earth at this time", that's where I got that from Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Feb 23 2013, 2:28pm
            Strange interpretation, if you ask me. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Feb 23 2013, 5:21pm
                Very well Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Feb 23 2013, 5:33pm
                    Hostile attitudes reflect Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Feb 23 2013, 5:54pm
                        Like a mirror? Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 23 2013, 9:50pm
                            Thankyou :) AshNazg Send a private message to AshNazg Feb 24 2013, 7:55pm
                            Some background. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Feb 25 2013, 12:50pm
                        I don't think the OP was in any way 'bashing' the movie Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 24 2013, 2:13pm
                Not really. Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 23 2013, 10:02pm
                    She is one better! Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 23 2013, 10:19pm
    I thought him a bit over the top Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 23 2013, 3:20pm
        Yes I agree, that's precisely the problem Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Feb 23 2013, 4:22pm
            Possibly Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 23 2013, 5:01pm
    Yes CathrineB Send a private message to CathrineB Feb 23 2013, 4:07pm
        I agree with this Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 24 2013, 2:16pm
            Saruman in FOTR... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Feb 25 2013, 1:58am
    Not to my way of thinking IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 23 2013, 5:10pm
        It was my assumption Esmeralda Send a private message to Esmeralda Feb 23 2013, 9:04pm
    I think that would be a bit cliche. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Feb 23 2013, 10:39pm
        Yes, that's it Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 23 2013, 11:34pm
    I agree with Lightice on this. Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Feb 23 2013, 11:44pm
    Not really for me Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 25 2013, 7:57pm

 
 
 

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