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AshNazg
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Feb 23, 12:56pm
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Was Saruman portrayed as too evil?
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On thinking back to my first viewing I liked the subtle way that Gandalf doesn't really like Saruman in The Hobbit; perhaps because he finds him too intimidating? And I thought that was a cool way to get the audience to dislike him even before his corruption.
I then thought should the audience dislike him? Doesn't that ruin the surprise (at least for newbies) when he becomes corrupt in Lotr? Wouldn't it have been a better move to show Saruman as wise and kindly so that Gandalf's decision to visit him in LotR makes more sense?
Anyway, I remembered Gandalf's reaction to Saruman being quite subtle in The Hobbit, so on my second viewing I looked out to see if the rivalry was too apparent and I noticed something I didn't like at all. When Saruman is introduced the Mordor theme plays!
I assume this theme was supposed to be some sort of foreshadowing. But in my opinion it takes it a step too far. Is it really necessary to spell out to the audience that Saruman is going to become evil? It was a big part of LotR, people aren't going to forget!
IMO They've wasted a good chance to show another side to Saruman just so they can point out the obvious to fans and spoil LotR for newcomers.
**rant over**
Sorry! 
(This post was edited by AshNazg on Feb 23, 12:58pm)
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Was Saruman portrayed as too evil?
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AshNazg
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Feb 23, 12:56pm
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Christopher's performance wasn't really striking
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Tigero
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Feb 23, 1:42pm
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Saruman and evil
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billzy2
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Feb 24, 3:14am
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Well
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Feb 23, 1:55pm
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Arrogant? Yes! Evil? No! And it's his own theme ;)
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Feb 23, 11:47pm
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Yes
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Feb 24, 8:26am
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Agreed
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BalrogTrainer
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Feb 24, 12:21pm
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Oh, Thank God she couldn't! Nor would she have been able to.
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 25, 2:36am
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You are wrong on many counts.
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Lightice
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Feb 23, 2:05pm
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Boyens described Galadriel as "the most powerful being in Middle-Earth at this time", that's where I got that from
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Feb 23, 2:28pm
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Strange interpretation, if you ask me.
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Lightice
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Feb 23, 5:21pm
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Very well
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Feb 23, 5:33pm
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Hostile attitudes reflect
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Lightice
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Feb 23, 5:54pm
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Like a mirror?
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Roheryn
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Feb 23, 9:50pm
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Thankyou :)
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AshNazg
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Feb 24, 7:55pm
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Some background.
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Lightice
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Feb 25, 12:50pm
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I don't think the OP was in any way 'bashing' the movie
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Súlimë
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Feb 24, 2:13pm
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Not really.
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Roheryn
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Feb 23, 10:02pm
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She is one better!
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 23, 10:19pm
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I thought him a bit over the top
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Angharad73
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Feb 23, 3:20pm
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Yes I agree, that's precisely the problem
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Feb 23, 4:22pm
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Possibly
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Glorfindela
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Feb 23, 5:01pm
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Yes
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CathrineB
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Feb 23, 4:07pm
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I agree with this
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Súlimë
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Feb 24, 2:16pm
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Saruman in FOTR...
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Salmacis81
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Feb 25, 1:58am
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Not to my way of thinking
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IdrilofGondolin
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Feb 23, 5:10pm
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It was my assumption
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Esmeralda
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Feb 23, 9:04pm
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I think that would be a bit cliche.
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Ataahua
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Feb 23, 10:39pm
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Yes, that's it
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Glorfindela
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Feb 23, 11:34pm
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I agree with Lightice on this.
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Salmacis81
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Feb 23, 11:44pm
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Not really for me
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Rostron2
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Feb 25, 7:57pm
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