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Did he not admit defeat

stoutfiles
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Feb 21, 8:30pm


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And let Bilbo leave unharmed? Was the Arkenstone worth more than 1/14 of the treasure on the open market even though it was proved it wasn't due to the successful trade back? Did the contract ever cover that Thorin got the Arkenstone to himself?

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Who gets the Arkenstone? stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 20, 1:54pm
    There's actually a legal analysis of the contract Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Feb 20, 2:55pm
        I'm referring to the book stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 20, 3:07pm
            Thorin's heritage Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 20, 3:13pm
                Contracts do not detect personal value stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 20, 3:21pm
                    I find this "racist" argument amazing. ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Feb 20, 6:07pm
                        Not the same stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 20, 6:33pm
                            Shirehorse is right Kirly Send a private message to Kirly Feb 20, 10:55pm
                                If I have a sword in my hand stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 21, 1:36pm
                                    Adverse possession// Kirly Send a private message to Kirly Feb 21, 6:07pm
                                        Big difference stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 21, 8:27pm
            Comfortable? Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Feb 20, 3:24pm
    Thorin states he has dibs on it DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 20, 3:04pm
    Nice analysis Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 20, 3:06pm
        He makes it clear stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 20, 3:16pm
        Bilbo knew Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 20, 3:20pm
    Bilbo knew it was wrong Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 20, 5:38pm
        He knew it was shady stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 20, 6:40pm
            is that really so unimportant to you? Kirly Send a private message to Kirly Feb 20, 10:58pm
    Legal under what law? entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Feb 20, 6:30pm
        We know what is given to us stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 20, 6:37pm
            But you're extrapolating entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Feb 20, 6:48pm
                No I'm not stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 20, 6:56pm
                    But surely that is what he DOES say, stoutfiles? ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Feb 20, 8:37pm
                        The book notes that Thorin wanted all of it Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 20, 8:45pm
                    I think that is an opinion rather than something you can know, without Tolkien quotes Kirly Send a private message to Kirly Feb 20, 11:03pm
                        Common sense. stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 21, 1:40pm
                            More opinion. Where is the proof please? Kirly Send a private message to Kirly Feb 21, 6:13pm
                                Did he not admit defeat stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 21, 8:30pm
                                    The Arkenstone has different value to different people macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 21, 10:33pm
                    Not to wade into an ants' nest here... Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 20, 11:52pm
                        Good point. stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 21, 1:52pm
        Book vs. film. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 20, 9:07pm
            Well Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 20, 9:18pm
                Oh, I missed this piece of news! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 20, 9:35pm
                    It's in various video interviews done with the run up to the Hobbit. Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 20, 10:16pm
                        Thanks Ham Sammy. I'll look in to it. :-) / DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 20, 10:24pm
                            I posted the link Ham_Sammy Send a private message to Ham_Sammy Feb 20, 10:25pm
            I think Balin has the contract in the movie-universe macfalk Send a private message to macfalk Feb 20, 9:30pm
                That's the way I remember it too... Kirly Send a private message to Kirly Feb 20, 11:09pm
    Morally, it´s Thorin´s but... Marionette Send a private message to Marionette Feb 20, 11:14pm
        Bomby doesn't care? Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Feb 21, 9:39am
    Nice lawyering Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 21, 4:13pm

 
 
 

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