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Driving Out Sauron from Dol-Guldur

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Feb 21 2013, 4:06pm


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We've had many discussion about how this will be played out on the screen. At the time we see the fortress of Dol-Guldur it hasn't yet been rebuilt, so I favor that this will be more of a magical assault by the White Council that will take some form. Overt magic isn't PJ's style, but he's already done a lot more with Gandalf in AUJ than he did in LOTR in terms of 'offensive power'.

I also ran across something that is in Fellowship but supports some of the speculation on whether or not Saruman helps at all. There is the passage (paraphrasing badly here) where Gandalf explains that 'it was by the devices of Saruman' that Sauron was first driven from Dol-Guldur. I realize that is book canon, not movie canon, and may not happen at allowever, even Christopher Lee's frailty can be worked around by filming his section with body doubles, etc. as has been suggested. It would be nice to see him reluctantly disclose something he has studied about Sauron and his arts that allows them to do this. Tolkien of course, didn't describe what it was that allowed them to do it. What form of wizard action this will take, I ahve no idea. Some people hated the wizard fight in FOTR, but I was okay with it. It explains something I could't really visualize (how Gandalf got captured in the first place)

If Saruman does get involved in the effort to drive out Sauron and/or any minions, he might do it to increase his own status and power. Given the rampant speculation on how Galadriel/Gandalf and Radagast would be involved, it might even make more sense if he has to step in and reluctantly help out if Gandalf is truly injured, and there's any rescuing/carrying.

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Driving Out Sauron from Dol-Guldur Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 21 2013, 4:06pm
    Yeah MorgolKing Send a private message to MorgolKing Feb 21 2013, 4:39pm
    Saruman's role Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 21 2013, 4:45pm
        Ground Force Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 21 2013, 7:31pm
            Ground Force... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Feb 21 2013, 8:02pm
    My essentials for Battle for Dol Guldur would be utku Send a private message to utku Feb 21 2013, 5:31pm
        I really like your idea with the Palantr! :D Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Feb 21 2013, 7:24pm
    It would be uncanon but cool if Saruman Ffnir Send a private message to Ffnir Feb 21 2013, 6:25pm
        I always liked the idea that ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 21 2013, 7:45pm
    In Fellowship, Saruman is given significant power Istaris'staffs Send a private message to Istaris'staffs Feb 21 2013, 9:14pm
        Palentir at Dol Guldur guestion.. Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Feb 21 2013, 9:58pm
            Seven Stars and Seven Stones... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Feb 21 2013, 10:41pm
    I think part of the problem is that Peter has not had a great penchant for visualizing AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 21 2013, 11:42pm
        What would you envision? Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 22 2013, 3:20am
            It depends on the scene. I have said, that regarding the pinecones, I would have liked to have seen more blue AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 22 2013, 3:31am
                Good examples Slim Send a private message to Slim Feb 22 2013, 7:09am
                Thanks Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 22 2013, 5:28pm
                    HP image arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Feb 22 2013, 5:55pm
                        Thank you so much Arithmancer Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 22 2013, 10:30pm
                        It's very different in terms of magic Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 25 2013, 5:00pm

 
 
 

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